SF1 for sale

piranha-bro2 said:
Not mine, but even if they did, do I want to ride a bike that has crap brakes or ride on plastic tyres simply because it's an old bike and was built that way because that was allthat was available?

No. What I've written is that good brakes (and good tyres) are a readily available option to anyone who would like to make their 'old clunker' a lot safer. By all means ride your bike wherever you want at whatever speed you feel comfortable riding it, but don't imply that an SF1 is old, therefore improving its braking is pointless.

Bit like the way my modified bike feels.

I don't. I treat them as if they are trying to kill me. Good brakes helps.

Sometimes I ride slow and enjoy the scenery, sometimes I ride fast and enjoy the road. I'll happily ride 1,000km in a day and plan to use my bike as a touring mount.

???

It's an interesting discussion, Paul. We all want different things from our bikes. My argument is based on the fact that I can't enjoy riding a bike that feels unnecessarily 'inadequate' to me. And a modern alternative could never offer me the feeling I get when riding my very personalised Laverda.

Meanwhile Colin will hopefully find a buyer for his SF1. They might even ride it ... and they might even decide to put the drum front end on the shelf and upgrade it to an SF2!
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Every body is free to do what he wants with his motorcycle. I was just reacting to Clem's comment and to what is an ongoing and unclosed debate. How far do you modify an old bike? Come's a point where what you need is a modern bike.

I do know that they're out to kill me and I fully realise that I'd be much safer in a car.

As for doing 1000km a day, no way. My old carcass wouldn't allow it and neither would the roads. We ride at an average speed of 50km/h, which is more or less respecting the legal limit of 80 or 90 out of town and 50 or 30 in town. That means 6 hours on the bike for 300km and 8 hours on the road taking in a lunch break and a drink or two.
The roads won't allow any faster anyway taking into account mud, gravel, tractors and cows.

We do 1000 km in 3 days, enjoying every minute of it.

Paul
 
"I certainly don't ride fast, I enjoy life and the scenery too much. But when on the road, it's over 300 km a day, every day, for days on end. I'll arrive long before you will, believe me."

well I am going to dispute that! (not the first bit) when Paul and I rode from here (my house Knockholt) around 300 kilometres to Baskerville Hall it took all day, as in early AM to evening time, and every time I overtook something I had to wait up to 20 minutes for Paul to overtake the same thing, even though I respect that we must all make our own decisions, I was overtaking cars and trucks on single carriegways that gave enough time for Paul to come through as well, but he never did, so I waited. I have done this trip many times on TOG, my Pan, My Mercedes E class, the silver one and the black one, with or without caravan , Chevvy truck (when going to the agri sale) mk1 discovery with and without caravan ( I was at one time dating a worker from the hotel), the fastest that I have ever done it was 6am to 9.10am, that was a Sunday in the Merc, I saw 120MPH a lot on that run, the average time I do it on a bike is about 4.5 hours that day with Paul the riding time doubled that, so it is now official , and I am the chief witness, he is an old, slow, ex pipe smoking, ex long haired, guitar playing ex medical practioner and a happy hippy, dont change a thing Paul! a lot of us should be more like you.
CLEM
 
CLEMTOG said:
"I certainly don't ride fast, I enjoy life and the scenery too much. But when on the road, it's over 300 km a day, every day, for days on end. I'll arrive long before you will, believe me."

well I am going to dispute that! (not the first bit) when Paul and I rode from here (my house Knockholt) around 300 kilometres to Baskerville Hall it took all day, as in early AM to evening time, and every time I overtook something I had to wait up to 20 minutes for Paul to overtake the same thing, even though I respect that we must all make our own decisions, I was overtaking cars and trucks on single carriegways that gave enough time for Paul to come through as well, but he never did, so I waited. I have done this trip many times on TOG, my Pan, My Mercedes E class, the silver one and the black one, with or without caravan , Chevvy truck (when going to the agri sale) mk1 discovery with and without caravan ( I was at one time dating a worker from the hotel), the fastest that I have ever done it was 6am to 9.10am, that was a Sunday in the Merc, I saw 120MPH a lot on that run, the average time I do it on a bike is about 4.5 hours that day with Paul the riding time doubled that, so it is now official , and I am the chief witness, he is an old, slow, ex pipe smoking, ex long haired, guitar playing ex medical practioner and a happy hippy, dont change a thing Paul! a lot of us should be more like you.
CLEM
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Thanks Clem, but I've never been to Baskerville hall.
And how do you expect me to follow you anyway, you ride on the wrong side of the road? Bloody dangerous.
With Jean-Claude, we take took 16 hours from Roubaix to the ILOC rally in the Wirral, but JC wanted to make crossing the English Channel known over here as the Pas de Calais worthwhile, so we followed the coast from Dover to Portsmouth, then up to visit Stonehenge then up again through Wales South to North which was the only enjoyable part of the trip with roads not resembling an unending traffic jam.
Paul
 
where were we going that day then Paul, the route was more or less the same? Raydher rally? ILOC AGM?
CLEM
 
Guys, Thanks for all your comments. I am glad you think it is a fair price, pity none of you want it. I didn't think the brakes were so bad, they are certainly better than some of the British bikes i've owned. Having said that I have a 1967 T120 with a TLS brake on the front. Great brake, it can even make the tire howl.
 
I don’t think it is a case of not wanting it, just a case of how do you justify buying another bike when you already have a garage full and we’re all getting old. ☹️
 
Don’t panic, it’s just what I need the missus to think. Rest assured, i’ve not given up on the intention to buy a few more before I die. 😁
 
Paul Marx said:
Cm'on
Nowadays, any cheap car will out accelerate and out brake our old clonkers.
Paul
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Had to revisit this after an interesting encounter with a very low white 'sports car' on the way home from the Vic Lav Club monthly meeting this evening. It had a badge under the rear wing that said Lamborghini and I got the impression the owner wanted to do an 'acceleration comparison' with 'my old clunker'.

Very foolish behaviour ensued and I sat neck-and-neck with said car to redline in 3rd (that's 160kph for me). the thing was which was screaming like a banshee on heat - never heard anything like it. To confirm I wasn't dreaming I did a rego check on his 'Q84' licence plate: '2017 Lambretta Coupe' :ROFLMAO: I think Vicroads got the make a tad wrong.

I have been saying I think I've built a VERY fast SF-based special in the SFQ - the last few days have proven that to be quite the case.

Sorry Paul ... might be old, but ain't no clunker. And I'd better slow down or my licence is likely to vaporise.
 
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