SF750 primary and ignition

Fitz

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Cheshire UK
Hello again - more SF questions
According to the green book, the oil pump pinion should be marked to enable the ignition timing (points at the minute) to be set correctly as the shaft acts as a driver to the points - so far so good. It suggests that the mark on the pinion should be at 9 o-clock or 3 o-clock positions to enable the drive peg to locate through the oil pump housing and oil pump gear - on my engine this works if you use the etched arrow, not the dot on the pinion

If you have a look at the attached images, my upper crank case has a dot mark and the pinion has an arrow etched into it, to locate the shaft, gear and housing you align the arrow and crankcase dot,  so I did that, without the crankshaft gear fitted

There is a second mark on the pinion - a dot, so once I fitted the oil pump drive, I rotated the pinion until the dot aligned with the crank pinion - this is where things get difficult

There are no clear marks on the crank gear, only chisel marks where some ham fisted bugger has walloped the nut tab washer so I can only guess where the alignment should happen, but do I align teh arrow or the dot on the pinion

My thoughts to ensure I have everything set up correctly before I tighten anything is :-
1) Have the engine at TDC on left cylinder
2) Rotate the oil pump drive gear until the dot aligns roughly where the crank gear mark should be
3) Tighten the crank gear

Your guidance is appreciated
 

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When it came from the factory, the gears would both have had etched arrows.  These would line up with the crank at TDC and the keyway of the pump shaft at 12 o'clock.  The dot on the pump gear would be at 12 o'clock-5 past 12 max.

The crank gear would have either a dot or an etched "0", depending on age.  You might find a corresponding dot or "0" on the end of the crank splines, or in the keyway-type slot of early cranks.

Can't go wrong when all this lines up.

Please be aware that the crank gears were calibrated.  You will find a number between -10 and 30 stamped on the gear.  If assembling an engine from spares, make sure the pump and crank gears show a little play at the teeth.  If these mesh too tightly, the engine will produce a horrible grating sound.  If too loose, it'll just clatter a bit more.  Does nothing for the ignition timing though...

piet
 
another photo for help...
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for me the challenge was to enter the oil pump gear (timing), with the dot at 90 degrees to match the slot in the pump gear and then that both marks with the arrow align properly... but after correcting a couple of times, it was done. If you are missing the arrow in the crank gear...

Before assembling everything, make sure the oil pump (timing) gear spinns freely... lot of topics regarding this as well, it fight me quite a bit to have an smooth run!

Good luck! and enjoy!

Regards,
Miguel
 
Once again, no need to bother with all that.
Put the engine at TDC without the crank gear.
Put the timing gear with the woodruff key at 12 O'clock and then slip on the crank gear.
Done

Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
Once again, no need to bother with all that.
Put the engine at TDC without the crank gear.
Put the timing gear with the woodruff key at 12 O'clock and then slip on the crank gear.
Done

Paul

Yes - so easy! - i have updated the Green book in 2008 or so with that procedure. - Regards - Phil
 
Thanks all, I have the atest version of the Green book but it still wasn't too clear so I thought I would ask

Now I have your information and have looked at my images again, when the etched arrow is rotated to the align with the crank pinion, the dot on my my oil pump pinion will be at 12 o-clock as you have said, I have only just noticed the dot aligns with the key position

Hopefully problem solved

I am working through a tragic event in my life and trying to keep my head busy

You are a good bunch - thank you

 
All the best Fitz - yes, let your mind be free for a moment by focusing on the bike - I am sorry to hear you are having troubles.

Paul
 
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