Slightly annoying thing: 2 (spine frame weld fail)

Guys - look at your Laverda original frames and compare the welds. I would be VERY happy with the ones on the pics I posted. Not so much maybe if I wanted to chrome it, but for powder-coating or painting it... ;)
 
I want one like this:

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Wow, THAT is nice welding!!  Not perfect, but bloody close, ever so slight irregularities on the LH upper seam.  I'd be happy with that too! :D

Makes the other frame look like glued together with rhino snot.

piet
 
that is Tig welding.
no way can a mig give that sort of weld.
so now ya know1
 
just looked at the pic of the welds firstly the piece broken off looks as if there was not enough weld on the joint. The rest of the welds look like birdshit to me it looks like he ran out of gas and could not be bothered to get a new bottle to finish the job . One thing I will say is that on mild steel with TIG you never really get a lovely weld the tungsten's available these days (non nuclear) pick up the material on mild steel . To get a finish like the above article you would weld using stainless wire as your filler it leaves a nice clean weld.
Chris
 
Of course, John.

But the other frame is also TIG welded... :o

You can see the burnt off tungsten electrode lying on the bench in one of the photos!

piet
 
sfcpiet said:
Wow, THAT is nice welding!!  Not perfect, but bloody close, ever so slight irregularities on the LH upper seam.  I'd be happy with that too! :D

Makes the other frame look like glued together with rhino snot.

piet
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Yeah, almost perfect - top right, there is a hole!!!!!

strike750 said:
just looked at the pic of the welds firstly the piece broken off looks as if there was not enough weld on the joint. The rest of the welds look like birdshit to me it looks like he ran out of gas and could not be bothered to get a new bottle to finish the job . One thing I will say is that on mild steel with TIG you never really get a lovely weld the tungsten's available these days (non nuclear) pick up the material on mild steel . To get a finish like the above article you would weld using stainless wire as your filler it leaves a nice clean weld.
Chris
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Yes Chris, I expect it is stainless! It runs lovely and smooth.
The guy that did that had a very steady hand indeed.

I have seen some amazing TIG welds in carbon steel, as good as the example I posted or even better (not so lumpy), but welders that are capable of that are very rare in my experience.
 
Hey All

Usually I avoid comment on such threads but in this case the consequences are potentially fatal

True, everyone can make a mistake, however this one is visible and obvious, so why did the craftsman allow it to leave in that condition ? Maybe a number of mistakes in that it was not supossed to be dispatched until it was rectified.

Although not welding as such, here is some porn courtesy of Harris Performance.

                                                 Cheers
                                                        Matt

 
 

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Matt,

I do think your examples can rightly be classed as craftmanship, with a capital "C"!

Very nice indeed.

piet
 
Matt,
Those (bronze) welds are indeed sublime and serve to underline the difference between welding and sticking two bits of metal together - ie skill.
Actually I find the headstock shot bordering on some sort of erotic art, tubes wrapped around like a pair of arms and legs....  Ahem... I'll be off now...
Cheers
SteveB
 
 
OK, you're into blow up dolls. Takes all kinds to make the world go round  :o
 
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