Starter problem on Jota

davefirestorm

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Hi I haven't actualy bought the bike a Jota Series 2 yet but one I am thinking of buying makes a "squeeling" noise when starter button pressed bike bump starts and runs ok guy selling bike knows what it is and can fix with some springs and a 10mm left hand threaded bolt ordered from Slaters,is this a common problem and is the starter usualy ok and starts the bike from cold?I am viewing the bike tomorrow and would like to have a bit of knowledge on the problem if possible.
 
It does sound like a starter clutch problem,in the drive train, between the starter motor and the engine is a "sprag clutch" or if you like a device which permits rotation of the engine by the starter but not rotation of the starter by the engine, a sort of "one way" device.They can be fixed quite often, but not always.It is easy to buy replacement springs and rollers, and also (but not so easy) the plungers.There are six of these little blighters, with each spring about the size of a biro type.If all the plungers are "free" then you are laughing, and its not too hard to do, but if they have seized in their bores (likely) then they can be quite a bitch to get out.In the end though if extraction by fair means or foul of these little plungers fails,(I usually tack a weld rod to them and then twist and lever out) the unit can be seperated, by grinding off the rivet heads which hold the component parts of the cklutch togethere, and then with the application of lots (and I do mean lots) of heat, the whole caboodle can be got apart.Much simpler would be to source a used item, shouldnt prove too hard to get, but in order to do this repair you will be removeing the genarator cover, and then the inner caseing, together with the generator stator, not hard to do, with the exception of the corect bolt to remove the generator (the front wheel spindle can be used).It wont affect the ignition, as on series 11's this is on the front of the primary cover.
If the bike is a good one, I would not be put off by this, but as every seller would say, "its easy to fix" not actually every time, no its not.
CLEM
 
hi
just budget about ?300 to ?400 for the repair.Richard Slater had all the bits needed for my RGS starter sprag clutch including springs plungers and rollers and freewheel collar,was very helpfull and next day delivery.look at it priced above as worst case scenario as mine was totaly shot
neale
 
Thanks for the info guys the seller is going to repair the starter before/if I buy he has ordered the parts from Slaters,his mates Jota had the same problem and he recognised symptoms
 
Yeah..That's a sprag clutch issue almost for sure.

If it's a 120,  I have the plungers as I bought the wrong ones for my 180.

I keep a spare sprag clutch all ready to drop in should I get an issue in future..and of course having one in a box I never will..

joe
 
jotajoe said:
Yeah..That's a sprag clutch issue almost for sure.

If it's a 120,  I have the plungers as I bought the wrong ones for my 180.

I keep a spare sprag clutch all ready to drop in should I get an issue in future..and of course having one in a box I never will..

? ? ? ?.... the same item for all models (except the Zanes...), one size fits all!

piet
 
jotajoe said:
Yeah..That's a sprag clutch issue almost for sure.

If it's a 120,  I have the plungers   as I bought the wrong ones for my 180.

I keep a spare sprag clutch all ready to drop in should I get an issue in future..and of course having one in a box I never will..

joe

:D

8mm rollers for the MK I 180s, 750s and 500/600, 10mm for all others.... all use identical plungers, OE part# 43 501 001

piet
 
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