Transmission seems to be locking up

Joe-Did you pull the starter for the Redax/Sachse install? I was thinking about wiring routeing and starter gear alignment. Hope the problem has been "exorcized".
 
IAG said:
Joe-Did you pull the starter for the Redax/Sachse install? I was thinking about wiring routeing and starter gear alignment. Hope the problem has been "exorcized".
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no was just at that stage and then got pulled onto other projects

I went from no problem to problem without starting the engine so I dont think any thing got into the gearbox...

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I'll pull the bike out into the sunshine today and have a closer look at things.

I'm hoping my rotating the crank back and forth to find centre of TDC hasn't ko'd the cam chain tensioner blade.  I don't understand how ( if the blade has broken ) bits of it could have migrated into the gear box without me starting the engine.

I only pushed her back into the garage.

For all the world the symptom is like I have put a broom handle through the wheel... ???  As I said though the problem has gone away ..for good I hope..but now I'm worried cuz the boys are telling me I need to strip the engine ha ha !

I do have a spare gearbox and I'm going to see if it is possible to get a false neutral which could cause this but I do think I'm pointing percy into the wind  :LOL:
 
Well it's only a few minutes to get the cam cover off and once you've slackened off the tensioner, slide it out- assuming we're talking about the one at the back.

 
Just a thought guys. if the clutch plates were stuck together ( bearing in mind the lay up ). Would that cause my symtoms ?



and yes , I will be fully servicing the engine after I have finished installing the gen/ignition including valve check and now the cam chain tensioner too ; )

But I'm curious

joe
 
this needs very carefull looking into Joe, remeber that pattern tensioner blades have to be given a "bend" on the end before they are installed, and if not, then when turning the motor by hand the bottom of the blade can "hook" onto the chain and create an "oops", and also remember that when wheeling the bike out of the garage in neutral, the wheel is driving the chain, and turning the gearbox, but not connected to the crank other than by friction/oil drag, so if a bit drops, and you then move the bike (hopefully in neutral, but maybe between other ratios accidentally) the part could become entangled,

I hope its a kink on the chain, I had that with a 630 O ring chain years ago and it caused a drumming sensation to go through the whole bike, a bit like minscule rising and falling revs, it was a long while finding that the chain, had a kink from having been laid idle in a very tight curl for many years (actually still atatched to an engine that I boght from a Spanish write off, when I used the engine I was too tight to buy a new chain, since I thought that it had loads of life left in it, (as you do)

EVERYONE PLEASE NOTE, I NO LONGER USE 630 CHAINS EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A BRAND NEW ONE STILL IN A BOX AND THREE SETS OF SPROCKETS, YES I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT (CIBIE)
CLEM
 
Thanks Clem..I will investigate fully..The good news is there is no damage as such as I haven't started the engine haven't even finished installing the ignition ( The Lord doth work in strange ways )...Got a bit distracted by the side stand project.!

joe
 
Well a sticking clutch may be it- assuming it was in gear.  Just take it out for a good thrash, what's the worst that could happen?
 
and the culprit is....  a little washer that had dropped into the chain run...I actually remember it going missing when I was removing the amplifiers a few weeks ago. I assumed it had gone to room 101 but nope a gremlin caught it and positioned it neatly on the chain just to give me a fright  :o  and it did.. :-[

There it was bold as brass when I pulled the bike back...sitting on the floor LOLing at me.. :LOL:

Happy days ..Onwards and forwards..Indefatigable... :-*


joe
 

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Bunyip1 said:
3/4 turn of the wheel sounds about the length of the upper/lower chain run - look for a stiff link or debris.
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And the prize goes to Bunyip. Just goes to show: start at the simplest and work your way up. Ozram's Law :D
 
we have all done it Joe
some have dropped shims, or spring linksdown the cam chain tunnell, even the chain itself, but you ignored one golden rule
you knew that you had dropped a washer, you just simply have to know where it went,it just HAS TO BE FOUND, it cannot dissapear,this is why sweeping the floor or workbench makes such good sense,before you commence, when I rebuild transmissons, I dismantle on the top of an old oil drum, with the top dented and many holes drilled in for oil drainage, the top is then covered with a clean cotton sheet, and the floor underneath the drum, it is surpising how far an item can bounce, the cloth helps stop that.

very glad you found it Joe, you just cant give your bike the berries with any doubt as to your own personal security if you had not got it.I dont understand how the GP riders can go out, not being 100% sure that every little detail is bob on, when they didnt do it themselves.
CLEM
 
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