Zane water cooling system refill

[Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond]

Lothar has your engine let go ? Or have you modified it ?

Just trying to get the fuel light working - bulb is good - getting to the two front fairing bolts just about impossible - got 12 volts going into the sensor - I assume at some point the float makes a circuit back up to the light

 

[Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond]

Fuel sensor and light working off the bike now  - maybe i have more fuel than i thought  took me half an hour to get the bulb out 

 

[Dellortoman]

WTF is a 'nourrice'?  It's French and means babysitter or wet nurse. What's a babysitter doing on the radiator? I suspect the word they're looking for is nipple.

 

[Cosi]

They came off the production line with non matching numbers which no doubt made it easier to change damaged engines...

 

[Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond]

WTF is a 'nourrice'?  It's French and means babysitter or wet nurse. What's a babysitter doing on the radiator? I suspect the word they're looking for is nipple.

And it?s a nipple hidden underneath the fairing that doesn?t look like it opens up - but I am over that now ! Just the stuck clutch to resolve

 

[Paul Marx]

WTF is a 'nourrice'?  It's French and means babysitter or wet nurse. What's a babysitter doing on the radiator? I suspect the word they're looking for is nipple.

A nourrice is an independant liquid feed tank.

Paul

 

[Ventodue]

WTF is a 'nourrice'?  It's French and means babysitter or wet nurse. What's a babysitter doing on the radiator? I suspect the word they're looking for is nipple.

.  It's a good question, because me too, I've never been able to find this word, 'Nourrice,' used any where else in Italian  ???.  Maybe I haven't looked hard enuf ...

It's the name that Laverda use for the expansion tank.  The same name is used in the parts book too, btw.  So I suppose you could equate it to 'feeder tank' .

 

[Ventodue]

Teach me eh 

My apologies if it came across like that  :.  I just didn't want to overfilling the bloody thing and ending up with a split tank.  They're made of a plastic that isn't easy to repair, and new ones aren't getting any easier to find ...

I did find that but it doesn?t look like a screw and it?s just underneath the fairing which I hadn?t taken off - sort of common with this bike - need to take off a lot to get anywhere - started with replacing the breather pipe between the airbox and the engine case .

Yes, you really need to take the fairing off to have easy access - as you do for most operations on these bikes, IME  :'(.  Sorry, just the way it is with faired bikes of the period.

 

[Ventodue]

A nourrice is an independant liquid feed tank.

Bonjour Paul,

Is it commonly used in that sense en fran?ais?

Merci

Craig

 

[Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond]

My apologies if it came across like that  :.  I just didn't want to overfilling the bloody thing and ending up with a split tank.  They're made of a plastic that isn't easy to repair, and new ones aren't getting any easier to find ...

Yes, you really need to take the fairing off to have easy access - as you do for most operations on these bikes, IME  :'(.  Sorry, just the way it is with faired bikes of the period.

No apologies needed- I am the stupid one having not read the manual carefully enough - very happy to be put right any time - every day is a learning day - in mitigation the manual is on a pdf on my computer upstairs - the garage seems a long way - the front fairing has two small bolts right at the front which are bastard even with the screen off !

It?s coming back together but still need to get the clutch unstuck and it needs new tyres - but bubbling on the alloy of the wheels could be an issue for sealing - just trying the best way to go forward

 

[Ventodue]

I did find that but it doesn?t look like a screw <snip>

This is it.  I trust you have managed to unscrew it?  It is the way to get any residual air out of the cooling system ...

 

[Ventodue]

<snip>  bubbling on the alloy of the wheels could be an issue for sealing ...

Yes ....  The inability of Marchesini to apply a paint that could resist the corrosive conditions inside a tyre still leaves me perplexed ....  "Rider safety?"  "Who gives a ..."

Others will have their own solutions, but FWIW:
All I did was remove the paint all the way round the rim - not a difficult task  :.  And then apply a coat of clear lacquer to the clean aluminium.  No problems since.

 

[Ventodue]

<snip>  the front fairing has two small bolts right at the front which are bastard even with the screen off !

Ah ... Had to think about it, but I seem to remember there is, indeed, something stupid that makes getting the front fairing off unnecessarily painful.  But I modified mine so long ago, I've forgotten the details .. 

If you can help my fading memory with a bit more info (photos, even?), I may be able to help.  Is it to do with the way the headlamps are mounted?  Damn!  I can't remember ...  :'(

And help me out here, Cosi and Lothar!

 

[Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond]

Looking at your wheels - yes the inside - but my paint is peeling on the outside of the rim and it will look crap when the tyre fitter gets too them more will come off - pic of the two screws , that airbox is bugger as you need room to affix the breather pipe and fuel pipes at the same time as guiding the rubber inlet on ! 

 

[Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond]

This is it.  I trust you have managed to unscrew it?  It is the way to get any residual air out of the cooling system ...

No i didnt get to that one - not just sure how that comes out - however having got 1.3 litres in by holding up the header tank vertical and bubbling through i think i should be ok 

 

[Ventodue]

Re. those two screws.  Yes, that fixing can be modified to make taking the front fairing off an easy job (not that normally you have to do it that often; but even so ...).  Give me some time to get back to you with some specifics.

Re: peeling paint on the outside of the wheels.  This outfit (certainly used to) do a rattle can of matching orange:
www.Bike-Paint.co.uk
Email:- sales@Bike-Paint.co.uk
Tel:- 01245 808128
Fax:- 08700 685858
Contact: Sarah French

 

[Ventodue]

No i didnt get to that one - not just sure how that comes out - however having got 1.3 litres in by holding up the header tank vertical and bubbling through i think i should be ok

It's just a small Allen screw, nothing complicated.  They can get stuck/corroded, tho' - and in the photo, you can see there's black paint all over the screw.  Which doesn't help.

So if you're seeing air bubbling up in the header tank ("nourrice"  ), you can probably leave it alone ...

 

[Ventodue]

You must have the only one Craig, I have never seen a Zane with matching Numbers, close but never matching

You're absolutely right, Cosi.  Sorry - talking out my ar*e again ... 

Frame number 1222, engine number 1213.

Thanks for the correction!

 

[Laverdalothar]

Lothar has your engine let go ? Or have you modified it ?

I bought mine from OCT who - before selling it to me - as part of the deal reworked the engine (new big end bearings etc.). It had less then 10.000km on it when I bought it and the engine was still in good shape, but I decided to invest the 2.200? uplift at that time to get the engine fixed. It has 15.000 now on it (not used much unfortunately in 12 years of ownership...) and was recently serviced (new tires, different starter engine gearing etc. etc. and T?V) so hopefully I can ride it this season again (need to lose some weight again, zipper on my leather does not close anymore...  :-[ ).

However, the engine number itself is unchanged. It is as it came from the factory and the engine and frame numbers are something like 12 or 15 numbers appart.

 

[Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond]

Mmm our engine numbers are 3 out and this one has 19 k - almost certainly it has not had any work done but magnetic plug was free of debris - fingers crossed