Brake pads expert needed

I use the Brembo Carbon Ceramic pads on cast iron discs and find them excellent.
My understanding is that sintered are best suited to stainless steel and are not suitable for cast iron discs.
 
The Sock said:
I use the Brembo Carbon Ceramic pads on cast iron discs and find them excellent.
My understanding is that sintered are best suited to stainless steel and are not suitable for cast iron discs.
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I also use Brembo carbon ceramic pads (supplied by Ducati Paddy) on cast iron discs ( supplied by Malcolm Cox) with excellent results and have a similar understanding of sintered on cast iron.
 
The issue with using sintered pads on cast iron is that they cause more wear to the discs. Nobody has been able to tell me how bad the wear will be though, I presume it depends how you use them. So I'm currently trialing EBC semi-sintered on my cast discs. We'll see how it goes and if the discs wear out I'll get cool new SS ones :cool:
 
Sintered : stainless discs
Organic/ carbon ceramic: cast iron

Don’t use sintered on cast iron, read below and make your own mind up, there is a reason that they don’t make cast iron discs for motorcycles any more…

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Cosi said:
Sintered : stainless discs
Organic/ carbon ceramic: cast iron

Don’t use sintered on cast iron, read below and make your own mind up, there is a reason that they don’t make cast iron discs for motorcycles any more…

Brembo solutions for your motorbike

Explore Brembo's top-tier braking solutions for every motorbike, ensuring superior performance, safety, and reliability Find out more on brembocom
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Because of the high unsprung weight.
Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
Because of the high unsprung weight.
Paul
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Bullshit Paul, you missed a couple of rivets there. The difference in specific mass is negligable, stainless is actually slightly heavier!

Stainless is stronger, offers better friction coefficients and is less prone to warping... and doesn't produce unsightly rust.

Given modern alternatives, cast iron is simply crap. Only thing going for it is production cost, that's why cast iron discs are still widely used in mass-produced cars.

piet
 
I think that sintered damaging cast rotors MIGHT be a bit of an overstatement. Damage over what time frame? I was pretty shocked at how undersized my original rotters were before I replaced them. The wear limit size is cast into the disc edge.
 
sfcpiet said:
Bullshit Paul, you missed a couple of rivets there. The difference in specific mass is negligable, stainless is actually slightly heavier!

Stainless is stronger, offers better friction coefficients and is less prone to warping... and doesn't produce unsightly rust.

Given modern alternatives, cast iron is simply crap. Only thing going for it is production cost, that's why cast iron discs are still widely used in mass-produced cars.

piet
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Now I know better.
Paul
 
Marty, didn’t you run carbon ceramic on the 120 or the 3c like 10 years ago or something and you loved them?
Vince read the material, do some research or maybe listen to what people are saying and stop assuming FFS, it’s got to do with the metallurgy, the different bonding materials and the subsequent heat transfer
 
Hi Cosi, just fitted carbon ceramic to the bandit commuter, they are great. First set of pads I have put into the 4 spots on the 3C, as it is only used on big trips now, it has taken me 10 years to wear them out. 120 is fitted with Goodyear stainless floating that levo got for me from the UK, sintered pads in 4 spots, bloody great brakes.
 
Quote from post 76 I wrote here.
I wish you could find a site with good brake pad reviews. This has been a total lottery for me in the past. My favourite bit is spending money on pads that just don't work when it's raining hard. It's even harder with the now not common Cast Iron Discs.
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It's not that I refuse to learn but since the Pandemic I have become so sceptical about everything. I actually Bookmarked your site link Cosi as I found it well worth a read. What I have been doing is taking an old warn pad to Gowanlocks and asking Mike for a replacement that works when wet or dry. Better to, O DEAR, do your own research. Usually said before the Bullshit arrives.
 
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