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Chappo said:
Hi Cam, just wondering, is the Able Tasman ferry the only option you have to get it home?
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You're a bit behind the times Chappo. The ferry called Abel Tasman was replaced in 1993. BTW, it's Abel, not Able. The bloke credited with discovering Tasmania was a Dutch guy called Abel Tasman, although there would be a few Palawa people who would argue that they were there first.

The current ship is called the Spirit of Tasmania. Actually there's two identical ships. Spirit of Tas 1 and 2. They travel between Devonport in Tasmania and Geelong in Victoria. They leave opposite ports at the same time and pass each other in the middle of Bass Strait.

It's not the only option to transport bikes to Tasmania though. Bikes and cars can be shipped as freight (bikes preferably in a crate to avoid damage) but that's generally more costly. It could probably also go as air freight, but although I've never priced it, I expect that would be the most expensive option.

As it happens I'm going to Victoria anyway as pit crew for my mate who's racing at Mac Park on the weekend 16-17 May. There's room in his covered bike trailer to scoop up the Zero on the way. It'll probably come in handy as a pit bike at the track, and something we can use to nip into town for any necessary race bike supplies, like spark plugs, nuts and bolts, etc. I'm looking forward to the trip. There's 9 of us from Tassie going, so it'll be a party atmosphere.
 
Dellortoman said:
The ferry called Abel Tasman was replaced in 1993
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Thanks Cam. I was thinking they called all the replacement ferries Abel Tasman, then when I read Spirit of Tasmania in your reply I realised I'd heard the name plenty of times. I had a look, and see that the Spirit of Tasmania name is kept though, they are up to IV and V now, supposed to be operational in October. The new ones look pretty flash. I could say spell check changed 'Abel' to 'Able', but it was me, being a bit thick.

Sounds like a good trip coming up, have fun mate.
 
Dellortoman said:
You're a bit behind the times Chappo. The ferry called Abel Tasman was replaced in 1993. BTW, it's Abel, not Able. The bloke credited with discovering Tasmania was a Dutch guy called Abel Tasman, although there would be a few Palawa people who would argue that they were there first.

The current ship is called the Spirit of Tasmania. Actually there's two identical ships. Spirit of Tas 1 and 2. They travel between Devonport in Tasmania and Geelong in Victoria. They leave opposite ports at the same time and pass each other in the middle of Bass Strait.

It's not the only option to transport bikes to Tasmania though. Bikes and cars can be shipped as freight (bikes preferably in a crate to avoid damage) but that's generally more costly. It could probably also go as air freight, but although I've never priced it, I expect that would be the most expensive option.

As it happens I'm going to Victoria anyway as pit crew for my mate who's racing at Mac Park on the weekend 16-17 May. There's room in his covered bike trailer to scoop up the Zero on the way. It'll probably come in handy as a pit bike at the track, and something we can use to nip into town for any necessary race bike supplies, like spark plugs, nuts and bolts, etc. I'm looking forward to the trip. There's 9 of us from Tassie going, so it'll be a party atmosphere.
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I asked for a quote for my truck filled with 16 dirt bikes. $4,200 return…. prior to booking, some 7 weeks later, I asked for another quote.

$8,200 😳 the bike club thought I was ripping them off and happily I sent them a copy of the second quote to be transparent.

The job was cancelled very quickly.

I asked myself, how on earth, or rather, water?
 
chrisk said:
I asked for a quote for my truck filled with 16 dirt bikes. $4,200 return…. prior to booking, some 7 weeks later, I asked for another quote.

$8,200 😳 the bike club thought I was ripping them off and happily I sent them a copy of the second quote to be transparent.

The job was cancelled very quickly.

I asked myself, how on earth, or rather, water?
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Wonder what their fuel bills look like ATM (the 'Spirit' of Tasmania is expensive stuff!)
 
piranha-bro2 said:
They've just built the world's largest fully electric ferry, huge thing that will carry 225 cars and over 2,000 passengers. It's waiting for the ship that will transport it to its new owners in S America to get out of the orange boy's Dire Straits. That must be one BIG ship!
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Hi Quentin,

We have just completed commissioning trials on the all electric ferry. Got 28 knots out of it flat Knacker with 8 propulsion jets and not too many problems. At that speed the charge lasts for about 2 hours and longer as speed reduces, they are planning on 25knots as the operational speed. The run it will be on is from Montevideo (Uruguay) to Buenos Aires (Argentina) about 50klms with fast chargers at each end that can charge her up in one hour, not bad for 5000 batteries.
They are tossing around ideas to get it to Sth America like loading up the car deck with Diesel Gensets to charge on the run but the logistics may inhibit things?
The Danish King and Queen who were in Hobart a few weeks ago visited Incat as the Danes have ordered 3 all Electric ferries.

Cheers
Paul (Hobart)
 
Solar, or sails. Those Airo solid wings on America's Cup boats work pretty well. Modern weather forecasting could track the wind. It's nice to know where future energy is likely to go.
 
Vince said:
Solar, or sails. Those Airo solid wings on America's Cup boats work pretty well. Modern weather forecasting could track the wind. It's nice to know where future energy is likely to go.
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If they can get them up to speed, they could employ one of those foils that lift the hyper cats out of the water and allow them to go 100kph! :ROFLMAO:
 
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is sail power being investaged as a cargo ship power souse these days












Yes, sail power is being actively investigated and deployed as a modern supplemental power source for cargo ships. While traditional fabric sails are rare on large vessels, advanced Wind-Assisted Propulsion Systems (WAPS) like rigid wing sails, rotor sails, and kites are currently being retrofitted to existing fleets and integrated into new builds to reduce fuel consumption and carbon emissions.
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Key Modern Sail Technologies
  • Rigid Wing Sails (WindWings): Large, solid structures resembling vertical aircraft wings that automatically adjust to wind conditions. For example, the Cargill-chartered Pyxis Ocean uses 10-story-high rigid sails to achieve fuel savings of up to 30%.
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  • Rotor Sails (Flettner Rotors): Spinning vertical cylinders that use the "Magnus effect" to generate forward thrust from crosswinds. The Sohar Max, a 400,000-ton bulk carrier, is the largest ship currently retrofitted with this tech.
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  • Suction Sails (eSAILs): These use an internal fan to create a pressure difference across an aerodynamic surface, producing high lift with minimal deck space. Maersk Tankers recently ordered 20 of these for its fleet.
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  • Kite Sails: Massive high-altitude kites that pull ships from above, catching stronger, more consistent winds.
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Major Players and Adoption Trends
  • Industry Giants: Major companies like Maersk Tankers, Cargill, and Japan’s Mitsui O.S.K. Lines (MOL) are leading investments in wind tech.
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  • Fleet Growth: There were over 50 large vessels equipped with wind propulsion by late 2024, with expectations to exceed 100 installations by the end of 2025.
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  • Environmental Impact: Wind-assisted systems can typically reduce a large cargo ship's fuel consumption and emissions by 5% to 30%. Some ambitious projects, like Sweden's Oceanbird, aim for up to a 90% reduction.
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Current Challenges
  • Supplemental, Not Sole Power: For most large commercial ships, wind is an auxiliary power source used alongside traditional engines rather than replacing them entirely.
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  • Infrastructure Barriers: High sails can interfere with port cranes used for loading and unloading, leading to the development of foldable or retractable sail designs.
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  • Cargo Capacity: Smaller, purely sail-powered ships (like those from Grain de Sail) exist but carry only a fraction of the cargo of modern mega-vessels.
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Would you like more details on specific companies developing these sails or the cost savings they provide for international shipping routes?




I googled Sail being trialled as a supplement to large cargo ships and got a huge return. Its activly being developed worldwide, including solid wing-like sails 10 stories high, some kind of round fan-like structures and very large kits. There looking at a 30% fuel saving. Nothing new in the world again.
 

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What happens when we run out of fuel for aeroplanes? Maybe big airships will become popular again. Hindenburg #2 perhaps?
I reckon battery technology will have to improve a lot before we'll see electric jumbo passenger planes.
 
Dellortoman said:
What happens when we run out of fuel for aeroplanes? Maybe big airships will become popular again. Hindenburg #2 perhaps?
I reckon battery technology will have to improve a lot before we'll see electric jumbo passenger planes.
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You'd wanna be sure the earth strap wasn't gonna break at the eyelet. :eek: :ROFLMAO:
 
They were talking about airships what 20 years ago in Oz, blimps were being used over big sports events to do TV cameras and advertising. My favourite: Allegedly semi-criminal entrepreneur Alan Americas Cup Bond was behind it. Nothing happens these days without Drones everywhere, including what's blowing stuff up in the news.
 
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