Cico for sale in USA

I am not an expert regarding Cico, but I think it should have 1200 tank and 1200 side-panels. Year 1981 can be if it's for registration, in 1981 though the ND engines came out (and this one is a Bosch engine). Might be built in 1980 and sold in 1981 - who knows... engine number is close enough to my 1981 ND Jota (7474) that 1981 could be true though. Box swing arm is also rare to find on a Cico I think; as they were custom built to the desires of the customer, it might well be though. If this is an alloy box swing arm, this has been replaced later as I think they weren't available in 1981 at Laverda, and Cico (I think) only used standard components.

Full red paint, red seat etc. I have never seen on a Cico. The ones I have seen so far had 2 colors (red/white, blue-white etc.) or were of different color.

Basically, without a dedicated proof it's a Cico built bike, it could well be a standard machine that has been upgraded over time...

Oh - and this should not be mixed up with Cropredy's "Liberator", which is based on Cico's design, but typically does not have his technical specs (that said, some of the machines he sold were also quite standard engine wise - just like mine...)
 
you are being very critical Lothar, its more likely to be genuine Cico with the Jota side panels than the 1200 type, I think all Croporedy types had 1200 covers, it presents as a well cared for and hardly used machine, but looks to have been stood for a while as witnessed the cast iron fuel pipes (need changing) and the misplaced clip, indicating a recent tank removal, but a Cico could be anything that the original buyer wanted, so how it is possible to imply that any part of it may not be "original" is beyond me, I like it, but it wouldn't suit me know at 69.85 years

CLEM
 
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That swingarm is period and was made locally at the time, possible that Cico had a hand in it. The sections were milled from solid aluminium.
Looks like a very decent bike to me.

Marnix
 
CLEMTOG said:
you are being very critical Lothar, its more likely to be genuine Cico with the Jota side panels than the 1200 type, I think all Croporedy types had 1200 covers, it presents as a well cared for and hardly used machine, but looks to have been stood for a while as witnessed the cast iron fuel pipes (need changing) and the misplaced clip, indicating a recent tank removal, but a Cico could be anything that the original buyer wanted, so how it is possible to imply that any part of it may not be "original" is beyond me, I like it, but it wouldn't suit me know at 69.85 years

CLEM
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Clem, just google Cico Laverda and you will find that most bikes have the 1200 Side pannels, many of them have the 1200 tank even. Cropredy simply used the parts Cico used and you can see that the 1200 side-panels fit way better into the lines of the fairing and seat unit than the original Jota ones. Especially as this is a late 180° one from 1981, it his very unlikely to me that he would have stepped away from the 1200 sidepanels and tank. But as you say (and I also said before) - he did what the customer wanted, so - who knows?? There are no track records I think of what he had his hands on and what not.

Also see this pic of Simonato behind one of his machines. Which side-covers does the machine have, please...? ;-)


(and before you say: "Yeah - this is a 1200, that's why it has the 1200 tank and side-panels!") - not all Cico bikes were 1200ccm (mine f.e. was a bog-standard 1000 engine even with A/11 cams, low compression etc. etc.)

see also other examples below. Checking the net, I could only find one sample with the Jota side panels really (that one has the seat-unit cut away though drastically, so I am not sure also that other things haven't been altered, too...) and only one with 1000 gas tank (but still the 1200 side-panels)... Mine came with 1200 tank and side-panels. I changed it for the 1000 tank as I like it much more.

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This is roughly how mine came originally, just with original wheels and in blue/white. Mine f.e. shows "Cropredy Liberator" in the papers, but it has never been in England and is more likely to be a Cico bike than a Cropredy one (if ever one of the two...). My brother wanted to make it a bit special and so he went to the local authorities with the adverts of Cropredy and a pic of the bike and asked them to put this into the papers, when the bike was imported from Italy in 1989. Huray - I have now a Cropredy Liberator. So what?

So - to play with your words and be "devils advocate" here, you could also say "so how it is possible to imply that any part of it may not be "original" is beyond me,". How can you be sure, Clem, please?? There is no mention of ANY proof this bike was ever touched by Cico (just like my bike!)

There is no proof at all except if the seller can present an invoice from Cico or any other corresponding proof, which there is no mention at all of in that advert.

Even more, the advert does not speak of a "Cico bike" but "a bike with Cico bodywork". That is most defenitely true. The parts were also sold separately, so - who knows what is original and what not, please??
 
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I think that by looking at the engine number it is definitely a 1980 built bike . My very late 80 Jota is 7232 so very close to the end of series one engines Lothar.😀👍
Tom
 
you dont like constructive comment at all, do you, Lothar!
if it is your wish I will delete my post.
CLEM
 
Clem, please leave it in, it makes threads unreadable if messages get deleted. I also did not meant to "step on your toes", but when you say that me questioning the originality of the bike is "beyond me", I would like to give you some information why I said so, that's all. Also only meant to be constructive feedback, please!!

There is nothing wrong with exchanging information in my eyes. We all haven't held hands at the time these machines were produced or modified by Cico, so everything we say is - unless a proof is available - more or less educated guesswork if you will.

So - unless I see a proof, I have doubts when it comes to originality, especially on modifications. These bikes are 40 plus years old - who knows what has been changed and what was installed around the time of production, please?? You can build a Cico out of a doner bike and 4 plastic parts with some according brackets. How many "Jota" run around that have never passed Slaters hands? Etc. etc. etc. I think it is fair to question claims until they get proven. Would you agree? ;-)
 
Ok, the bike is what it is, it was taken care of and is a cool looking bike, the question is how high will the price be? I think here in the states anything under $13K you'll be doing ok
 
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Clem, just google Cico Laverda and you will find that most bikes have the 1200 Side pannels, many of them have the 1200 tank even. Cropredy simply used the parts Cico used and you can see that the 1200 side-panels fit way better into the lines of the fairing and seat unit than the original Jota ones. Especially as this is a late 180° one from 1981, it his very unlikely to me that he would have stepped away from the 1200 sidepanels and tank. But as you say (and I also said before) - he did what the customer wanted, so - who knows?? There are no track records I think of what he had his hands on and what not.

Also see this pic of Simonato behind one of his machines. Which side-covers does the machine have, please...? ;-)


(and before you say: "Yeah - this is a 1200, that's why it has the 1200 tank and side-panels!") - not all Cico bikes were 1200ccm (mine f.e. was a bog-standard 1000 engine even with A/11 cams, low compression etc. etc.)

see also other examples below. Checking the net, I could only find one sample with the Jota side panels really (that one has the seat-unit cut away though drastically, so I am not sure also that other things haven't been altered, too...) and only one with 1000 gas tank (but still the 1200 side-panels)... Mine came with 1200 tank and side-panels. I changed it for the 1000 tank as I like it much more.

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This is roughly how mine came originally, just with original wheels and in blue/white. Mine f.e. shows "Cropredy Liberator" in the papers, but it has never been in England and is more likely to be a Cico bike than a Cropredy one (if ever one of the two...). My brother wanted to make it a bit special and so he went to the local authorities with the adverts of Cropredy and a pic of the bike and asked them to put this into the papers, when the bike was imported from Italy in 1989. Huray - I have now a Cropredy Liberator. So what?

So - to play with your words and be "devils advocate" here, you could also say "so how it is possible to imply that any part of it may not be "original" is beyond me,". How can you be sure, Clem, please?? There is no mention of ANY proof this bike was ever touched by Cico (just like my bike!)

There is no proof at all except if the seller can present an invoice from Cico or any other corresponding proof, which there is no mention at all of in that advert.

Even more, the advert does not speak of a "Cico bike" but "a bike with Cico bodywork". That is most defenitely true. The parts were also sold separately, so - who knows what is original and what not, please??
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This was my bike for 28 Years. I sold it to Torsten in Germany 10 Years ago. He had the bike repainted in the present colour, but the rest og the bike is pretty much like it was,when I sold it. Cico made this bike for me in 1985. Rebuilt the original 3CL engine with Jota pistons, RGS cylinder head and mange other things. He also fitted his fairing, seat ect. ect. He did a fantastic job and I did about 80 000 km on this bike, before I sold it. I made quite some modifications om the bike juring my ownership Sadly I learned about a Month ago, that Cico was in hospital suffering from bad health.
Preben
 
I just knew that I had seen it somewhere, now it falls into place
how is the 308 Preben?
big hugs to H
CLEM
 
The Cico??? is a bargain no matter how you look at it. What constitutes a Cico anyway? As was previously stated here on this site a 'Cico bike' was built to customer specifications, meaning throw everything you got at it or just the bodywork/fairing kit either way they were all carriers of the Cico branding (probably the wrong term). It's a lot like what the late Lance Weil of Rickey Racer was doing, building Laverdas to either customer specs or Lance's own ideas. What Cico or Lance built was the result of how much you wanted to spend, that's it, nothing more.
The Cico on the auction site is up to $13,000, reserve not met, who knows to me anything less than 18k is a good deal, FFS there is a 1980 low mileage Ducati 900ss at $32,500 with a 'reserve not met'.
If the Laverda sells there is a very good chance the bike will see the rubber meet the road and be enjoyed and actually ridden. The Ducati on the other hand upwards of $32,500 will probably never have gas or even a battery in it and will decorate someone's lobby or living room so what a waste of a fine piece of motorcycling.
Does anyone know where the Cico came from, it was not a part of any collection I have seen in the past 15 years, just wondering.
Cheers Dave
 
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In addition to my above comments is this, my opinion nothing more. I am very happy that the price of Laverdas has remained in the realm of sensibilities. In the world of classic, vintage, collector motorcycles Laverdas remain affordable, in most offerings, they are often less than the price of 750/1000/1200cc new bike offerings most of which fit the mold of consumer disposables.
Laverda's anonymity in the marketplace is a plus for riders who simply want to enjoy their bikes and not fall victim to the collector/investor mentality.
On the rare occasion when I have ridden $30-50k plus valued collector motorcycles, well let me just say anxiety was the overwhelming feeling on the ride, it was fun, and exciting but fuck those $ signs definitely were a selected ride control mode.
 
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