Club Laverda NSW brekky run 11th April

Legs you wouldn't recognise Sydney after the last 4 years of Expressway building, mega billions spent and about 20 years to late. The toles are HUGE
 
Don't miss Sydney at all, remember back in the eighties it was quite possible to go for a morning ride from Avalon to Lithgow and back.
Lot to be said for Adelaide, live on sixteen acres in the Adelaide Hills and only 45 minutes from the CBD (during peak minute).
They call Adelaide the twenty minute city, that's all it takes to get out of town.
 
I've got to travel about 350 kays to the first traffic lights. My favorite road starts at the bottom of my driveway. Thete is only one though.
As with Cam, never use ear plugs. I find them uncomfortable. As for music, I tried that once in California when The walkman was just invented.
Rode down Hwy101 for about 100 miles, no helmet but a beanie over the top of the headphones. Decided that the motor was a better option to listen to and riding without a helmet was really dumb.
 
First time I used earplugs on the bike I had real trouble sensing my speed into corners - it was just incredibly foreign to me. I've since become more accustomed - last ride with them was to the Not the Barry Melb-Syd-Melb on the Hume Fwy. If I forgot to put them in the diff was amazing. The white noise from wind is pretty severe when you compare, but modern helmets are definitely an improvement (from the open face piece of shite I rode from Melbourne to Darwin and back with!).

I don't use earplugs when playing drums in the band. I tried but I just can't get the fine nuances I want, especially with the hi-hats (which relies a lot on high frequencies). Fortunately the band I'm with now (and the style of music) is a little more conducive to no hearing protection than the various outfits I've played with over the decades. The worst was a cover band, blaring it out at crazy volume - the guitarist had TWO hotted up Twin reverb amps.
 
he worst was a cover band, blaring it out at crazy volume - the guitarist had TWO hotted up Twin reverb amps.

Maybe you can answer a question for me Quentin. At the risk of sounding like a grumpy old fart, why do rock bands play so bloody loud anyway? Do they think all their patrons are hard of hearing? I suppose they could be because the sound level for the punters attending must be well within the range for hearing damage.

The reason I ask is that I often hear bands playing on a Friday or Saturday night at an outdoor venue that's over 2km from my place. Sometimes on a windless night it's quite loud even at that distance. I can be sitting in my lounge room with the windows closed and TV volume turned up, and I can still hear the "doof doof" bass notes from the band about 1½ miles away. Aside from pissing me off that a good portion of the city's population has to put up with the noise intrusion, it also makes me wonder whether all the patrons at the venue are going to be deaf by the the end of the night.

Apologies for the thread hijack.
 
My first concert as a 13 year old, Deep Purple at the Hordern Pavilion 3ft from the stage,it was a touch LOUD
 
First concert, Isle of Wight Pop festival 1970. Fifty metres from the stage for three days. And at the time I was a sonar operator who was supposed to depend on acute hearing :unsure:
 
My brother mixed for a support band to Mondo Rock on a tour. At Cairns Mondo's mixer had the system on full volume 14500 watts. Was just shit at the showgrounds but people flocked to the concert from the northern suburbs where the sound was loud and excellent.
 
Not sure what caused my tinnitus, Rock bands in the 80’s, air ratchets, or riding without ear plugs, but it is getting very bad. Can’t ride without plugs now, and haven’t been able to go to live music for a couple of years. Popping tyres onto beads I wear ear muffs now
 
I rode mine for many years with no ear protection, worked as a roadie on rock tours and many years with aircraft, both piston and turbine, but I value my hearing and started wearing foam plugs in my forties.
I moved up to moulded plugs in 2015. They are vastly superior and constructed to allow non-harmful frequencies through, but it is a shock to feel the noise levels riding without them.
Since they are moulded to my ears, I find them perfectly comfortable and have ridden for hours with no problems.
Ask anyone with hearing loss or tinnitus what that feels like and protect your hearing. Mine cost £60/€70/$80/AU$110, that's a lot cheaper than my helmet visor and I wouldn't ride without that,Ultimate Ear Squidgy Plugs.jpg either.
 
Exactly !!!
Tinnitus sucks big time!
The difference between moulded ear plugs and any other, apart from real earmuffs is astounding.
Protect your ears
Simple.
🙂
 
Maybe you can answer a question for me Quentin. At the risk of sounding like a grumpy old fart, why do rock bands play so bloody loud anyway? Do they think all their patrons are hard of hearing? I suppose they could be because the sound level for the punters attending must be well within the range for hearing damage.

The reason I ask is that I often hear bands playing on a Friday or Saturday night at an outdoor venue that's over 2km from my place. Sometimes on a windless night it's quite loud even at that distance. I can be sitting in my lounge room with the windows closed and TV volume turned up, and I can still hear the "doof doof" bass notes from the band about 1½ miles away. Aside from pissing me off that a good portion of the city's population has to put up with the noise intrusion, it also makes me wonder whether all the patrons at the venue are going to be deaf by the the end of the night.

Apologies for the thread hijack.
It's the same principle as all sorts of trance inducing music in societies so inclined. Like ours. Repetitive and loud.

Paul
 
Yep, rock music has to be loud to 'move' the listener - so you feel the kick drum and bass guitar in your bod! As you noticed, Cam, the low end frequencies are the ones that travel (and why my SF has trouble with noise meters at Phillip Island!). I can't go into venues with crazy loud music any longer, and I haven't broken a drumstick for about 30 years. Interestingly, when a band is mixed properly, the volume on stage should be low and the 'front-of-house' mix volume is controlled by the FOH guy. Images of heavy rock bands and guitarists with 8 Marshall stacks looks to me like it's about the visual only. I worry about my kids and their Airpods.

As the style of music I play has moved away from pure rock I've found it's WAY harder to play quietly than to play loud - as a drummer volume is about physically controlling the sticks and the hit - singers and elec guitarists can simply turn a knob anticlockwise - no comparison.

Those earplugs look the goods, Mr Sock - definitely money well spent.
 
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