CND 860
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Exmoor beast
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- Minehead,Somerset, ENGLAND OF COURSE
The Buck is made from off cuts of MDF, I watched Bruce beat the alloy into a tank on that.
Bruce used to make the Clays for car body prototypes, very skilled guy.
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- Minehead,Somerset, ENGLAND OF COURSE
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Thanks for info and picture.
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Peder
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A very interesting project indeed.
The buck is a great thing to have for a project like that, extremely useful.
The funny thing is when you talk to people who have made a tank or even some of the newer companies who make tanks on bucks (And I am aware there are many ways to skin a cat) but the correct use of a buck is to lay your "already shaped" metal over the buck to check shape, it is not meant to be beaten upon, if you think about it hitting a piece of ally onto a hard surface will be very difficult to form into that shape. It should be beaten into a bag and (preferably wheeled) and gently formed and then gas welded together. TIG is not good for seams like that where you need to then file down the TIG weld, TIG is too brittle for this use and it always cracks, Just count the amount of TIGed ally tanks cracked at the classic TT if you don't believe me. The problem is that gassing ally is very difficult indeed and what makes it even worse is that the best fluxes are now bloody banned in the EU.
I stopped making stuff like that years ago as my jobs were not a patch on the work that the top guys could do and even the really top guys prices were cheaper than mine by the time I had fucked up a few times or had to repair a cracked seam after paint
I like this project as the bike always interested me, I am not a massive fan of it's style but the build quality looked really good and it was taken very seriously by the makers which I really appreciated. Both yours and Marnix bikes will be well worth the effort. Fantastic!
Tanks, Not sure what happened to Bobba but it would have been a great thing to have a tank in carbon!! His work was great, I was very lucky in having a few tanks dome by him and the quality was great and the price was really really good value !!
Looking forward to updates.
Jules
The buck is a great thing to have for a project like that, extremely useful.
The funny thing is when you talk to people who have made a tank or even some of the newer companies who make tanks on bucks (And I am aware there are many ways to skin a cat) but the correct use of a buck is to lay your "already shaped" metal over the buck to check shape, it is not meant to be beaten upon, if you think about it hitting a piece of ally onto a hard surface will be very difficult to form into that shape. It should be beaten into a bag and (preferably wheeled) and gently formed and then gas welded together. TIG is not good for seams like that where you need to then file down the TIG weld, TIG is too brittle for this use and it always cracks, Just count the amount of TIGed ally tanks cracked at the classic TT if you don't believe me. The problem is that gassing ally is very difficult indeed and what makes it even worse is that the best fluxes are now bloody banned in the EU.
I stopped making stuff like that years ago as my jobs were not a patch on the work that the top guys could do and even the really top guys prices were cheaper than mine by the time I had fucked up a few times or had to repair a cracked seam after paint
I like this project as the bike always interested me, I am not a massive fan of it's style but the build quality looked really good and it was taken very seriously by the makers which I really appreciated. Both yours and Marnix bikes will be well worth the effort. Fantastic!
Tanks, Not sure what happened to Bobba but it would have been a great thing to have a tank in carbon!! His work was great, I was very lucky in having a few tanks dome by him and the quality was great and the price was really really good value !!
Looking forward to updates.
Jules
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MarnixSFC
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Apart from the fact that only one CND was ever built, if you look at the amount of dedication, creativity and eye for detail that was put in the constructing of the CND850, with all respect I think that it is almost impossible to build a machine that would deserve to be named CND no 2.
That doesn’t take way the fact that you undoubtedly will make a beautiful machine.
Marnix
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Hi.
I do not agree with No 2 CND, as the parts come from the same company, plus I have the original tool for making a gas tank, plus you can see from the parts that they are exactly the same as yours on your CND. It's hard to find an original SFC frame, but you have not built the bike, but now assemble it for use.
Peder Heise
I do not agree with No 2 CND, as the parts come from the same company, plus I have the original tool for making a gas tank, plus you can see from the parts that they are exactly the same as yours on your CND. It's hard to find an original SFC frame, but you have not built the bike, but now assemble it for use.
Peder Heise