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I would truly like that ........ I have researched my ancestors and I now know why one never had children and another never had vision again. Vimy was a place of carnage. I would appreciate seeing the place where all men gave there all ..... regardless of which side they were on.

Best I can do here is lend you a bike and show you where we maltreated the earlier inhabitants of our nation ........ and perhaps some roads with curves and hopefully no gendarmes.

Jim
Paul Marx said:
When you come over, I'll lend you a bike and we'll go to Vimy for the Canadians. Then Fromelles and Villers Bretoneux for our Australian friends.

Paul
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That gets a lot more attention lately, it used to mainly Gallipily with is Ozzies. I saw a doco on John Monash on the western front a while back and it was amazing to watch.
 
helicopterjim said:
I would truly like that ........ I have researched my ancestors and I now know why one never had children and another never had vision again. Vimy was a place of carnage. I would appreciate seeing the place where all men gave there all ..... regardless of which side they were on.

Best I can do here is lend you a bike and show you where we maltreated the earlier inhabitants of our nation ........ and perhaps some roads with curves and hopefully no gendarmes.

Jim
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We have a deal.
The whole of Northern France was a place of carnage.
In a pre atomic age, it needed space to blow up several million men.

Paul
 
Vince said:
That gets a lot more attention lately, it used to mainly Gallipily with is Ozzies. I saw a doco on John Monash on the western front a while back and it was amazing to watch.
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Fromelles is just up the road from here. We often ride through going into Flanders.
5500 Australians fresh off the boat killed in 24 hours. A command blunder.

Villers Bretoneux is where I have a friend who runs a garage and does lovely paint jobs, so I'm down there from time to time.

Paul
 
There was more than one blunder in that war and most wars. that Monash doco talked of him being the first to fully organise an offensive with planes tanks guns and infantry all operating together on strict timetables, he was an Engineer by training. In other words, War on an Industrial scale Successful and the text book still used today for big operations sadly. Being good at it didn't stop the horrors from continuing.
 
And they are currently testing the new Boeing warplane at Woomera (my birthplace), it operates entirely on AI, it is not even a drone with a human steering it, but they reassure us that it isn't armed. The horrors will never stop.
 
Vince said:
That gets a lot more attention lately, it used to mainly Gallipily with is Ozzies. I saw a doco on John Monash on the western front a while back and it was amazing to watch.
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Fromelles is just up the road from here. We often ride through going into Flanders.
5500 Australians fresh off the boat killed in 24 hours. A command blunder.

Villers Bretoneux is where I have a friend who runs a garage and does lovely paint jobs, so I'm down there from time to time.

Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
Fromelles is just up the road from here. We often ride through going into Flanders.
5500 Australians fresh off the boat killed in 24 hours. A command blunder.

Villers Bretoneux is where I have a friend who runs a garage and does lovely paint jobs, so I'm down there from time to time.

Paul
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Not so sure thats a command blunder , or anzac troops just used as they were in those times
 
"Best I can do here is lend you a bike and show you where we maltreated the earlier inhabitants of our nation ........ and perhaps some roads with curves and hopefully no gendarmes"

can I bum in on that one pretty please, my great uncle is buried at Mailly-Maillet about 50 miles from you Paul, he was killed on 17th (or 13th) November 1916, death due to exploding artillery that was shagged out and should not have been in use! I had planned to visit on the 100th anniversary of his death on 17th (or maybe 13th) November 2016 (records conflict) and fire a volley with my 1916 Lee Enfield SMLE 303 rifle, but it did not happen and still has not, I would like to catch up on that one!

CLEM
 
CLEMTOG said:
"Best I can do here is lend you a bike and show you where we maltreated the earlier inhabitants of our nation ........ and perhaps some roads with curves and hopefully no gendarmes"

can I bum in on that one pretty please, my great uncle is buried at Mailly-Maillet about 50 miles from you Paul, he was killed on 17th (or 13th) November 1916, death due to exploding artillery that was shagged out and should not have been in use! I had planned to visit on the 100th anniversary of his death on 17th (or maybe 13th) November 2016 (records conflict) and fire a volley with my 1916 Lee Enfield SMLE 303 rifle, but it did not happen and still has not, I would like to catch up on that one!

CLEM
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Lovely biking country Clem. We're quite often down that way. You're very welcome.

Paul
 
Many thanks to Eric, alias Dude on this forum for this link to a Youtuber I didn't know. Part of Northern France I've learnt to love. Clem and Jim, you're most welcome. Weather is often much damper.
Thiepval is where I met up with Joe Geoghegan on 11/11/1918.


Paul
 
CLEMTOG said:
I had planned to visit on the 100th anniversary of his death on 17th (or maybe 13th) November 2016 (records conflict) and fire a volley with my 1916 Lee Enfield SMLE 303 rifle, but it did not happen and still has not, I would like to catch up on that one!
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Blimey, good luck with that Clem. If you try riding a motorcycle in Australia with a rifle slung across your back you'd be arrested in no time!
 
Vince said:
There was more than one blunder in that war and most wars. that Monash doco talked of him being the first to fully organise an offensive with planes tanks guns and infantry all operating together on strict timetables, he was an Engineer by training. In other words, War on an Industrial scale Successful and the text book still used today for big operations sadly. Being good at it didn't stop the horrors from continuing.
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Monash and the Aussies working in concert with Currie and the Canadians at Amiens was impressive.
 
sideshow said:
Not so sure thats a command blunder , or anzac troops just used as they were in those times
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If I recall they treated ALL the troops that way ......... many terms describe this such as cannon fodder. I find this list of terms from wikee paedia to be interesting.

Military tactics/units
  • Forlorn hope: an initial wave of assault troops expected to sustain high casualties while attacking a well-defended target.
  • Human shield: a situation in which the potential for civilian casualties deters attacks on a military target.
  • Human wave attack: an assault in which a disproportionately large number of attackers is intended to overwhelm a well-defended target.
  • Penal military unit: a combat formation composed of either personnel sentenced under military law, or civilian convicts who have volunteered or been drafted into military service.
  • Shock troops: infantry at the forefront of an attack.
  • Suicide attack
Poor bastards.

Jim

 
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