Ducati Paddy

Looking around, Gutsibits seem to still offer Brembo service parts. Helpful if you know the Brembo part number.

Dellorto could come from EuroCarb Reading.

Black PO8s seem readily available. I can currently only see gold ones at Mdina Italia.
 
".........those that lusted after these machines back in the day, reach an age where Laverda 1000’s and mobility Scooters don’t really mix"
Brutal:LOL:, (but sign of times as discussed here a few times...................)
 
Yes, sadly there appear to be few younger folks coming into the classic motorcycle scene and I'd imagine the future for our treasured motorcycles doesn't look bright.

Better get riding whilst we can...

And they have such a current zero carbon footprint and the ultimate recycling motorcycle.
 
The full Brembo designation for the basic caliper you're after is P2F08. The gold ones were generally known as goldline or goldline racing and are slightly different from the basic black ones. The main difference that I'm aware of is that the goldline calipers don't have the ridges along the top that the plastic covers clip over. Presumably the plastic covers were deemed un-necessary for racing so they were deleted to save weight. They may also have been "shaved" - a bit of material skimmed off the outside to reduce weight.

I suspect the black (road use) and the goldline calipers came out of the same casting mould, but the machined differently during the finishing process. So if you can't find original goldline calipers, I reckon you could modify some standard black ones and get them anodised or powder coated gold.

There was a bit of discussion about these calipers a couple of years ago ...
iLaverda

Thread 'Differences between BREMBO F08 and P08 calipers'

Who is informed about the different types of the early BREMBO calipers? I'd be interested in the differences between the models F08 and P08. Have both been produced since 1973?
Any information is welcome.
 
Dellortoman said:
The full Brembo designation for the basic caliper you're after is P2F08. The gold ones were generally known as goldline or goldline racing and are slightly different from the basic black ones. The main difference that I'm aware of is that the goldline calipers don't have the ridges along the top that the plastic covers clip over. Presumably the plastic covers were deemed un-necessary for racing so they were deleted to save weight. They may also have been "shaved" - a bit of material skimmed off the outside to reduce weight.

I suspect the black (road use) and the goldline calipers came out of the same casting mould, but the machined differently during the finishing process. So if you can't find original goldline calipers, I reckon you could modify some standard black ones and get them anodised or powder coated gold.

There was a bit of discussion about these calipers a couple of years ago ...
iLaverda

Thread 'Differences between BREMBO F08 and P08 calipers'

Who is informed about the different types of the early BREMBO calipers? I'd be interested in the differences between the models F08 and P08. Have both been produced since 1973?
Any information is welcome.
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Many thanks for that. Yes indeed I went down that rabbit hole when refurbishing the existing ones in 2012 and the Ducati 900 Replica. I was never 100% with the outcome of coating and am forming the view that the unsatisfactory braking performance may be due to them hence the search for replacements.

Appreciate your insights. If anyone has a new old stock pair wrapped up snug, I may be your man....lol.

Stuart

Stuart
 
stuartmetcalfe said:
Apologies if I've missed a post. Many of us will have used Ducati Paddy for brembo and dellorto parts and more.

I went looking for a pair of gold PO8s this evening to find he's retired and shut down.

End of an era...

Stuart
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That's sad news indeed,Paddy was a great go to parts supplier and a top bloke providing service that went above and beyond, I know this would have been a tough decision for him to make but times change and the markets are different.
I for one want to thank him for his help,support and service that he has given to us Laverda owners over the years and wish him a very long and happy retirement doing the things he loves the best.

Cheers Paddy (y)
 
If you want to replicate a gold finish then cerakote is the best answer - as many have found anodising does not provide an even finish. The chap that Paddy used knows his stuff and I can recommend him - Mark Dunford at High Calibre Coatings
I've got a set of 3 P08 refurbished black calipers on the shelf - as Cam notes above, there are subtle differences with the genuine Goldline items.
 
The weather is shit here at present, so I spent a bit of time on the computer trying to figure out what the Brembo P2F08 suffix codes mean. I've seen stuff like P2F08/3 or P2F08N/3. I'm still none the wiser about the 3, but apparently N means anodised aluminium pistons (early ones used steel pistons). Replacement pistons these days are aluminium with what appears to be a teflon coating.

All P2F08 calipers have 38mm pistons with M10 mounting bolts at 108mm centres. The mounting holes can be threaded M10 x 1.25 or M10 clearance depending on the mounting which side of the fork lugs they're bolted to. I wasn't able to find any numbers or letters to indicate threaded or clearance bolt hoes.

The Brembo part numbers are:
20355640 for front right side ahead of the fork or left side behind the fork. Can also be left rear if mounted above the swingarm or right rear if underslung.
20355641 for front left side ahead of the fork or right side behind the fork. Can also be right rear if mounted above the swingarm or left rear if underslung.

I couldn't find any specific part numbers relating to the goldline versions of the calipers.

Pad part numbers start with 07BB14xx, with the xx being various numbers or letters to indicate pad friction material.

There's a bunch more info on this forum here https://laverdaforum.com/threads/brembo-goldline-differences.93564/page-2
Some informative posts from Paddy himself.
 
He had mentioned about a year ago, that Brembo was showing little if any interest in supplying parts for older bikes. He could not even get common brake parts for bikes of the 1970's anymore. Brembo was a big part of his business.

My 1983 RGS has a 14mm front master cylinder. Master cylinders and rebuild kits are no longer available.

The rear master on the RGS is 12mm and master cylinders and rebuild kits are also no longer available. But you can take the seals off a different 12mm master. For how much longer?

Even some BMW bikes of the 1980's which were made in huge numbers compared to a Laverda, you can't get Brembo parts anymore.
 
That is a problem for people holding on to originality and it is a shame not to supply things like pistons. If Brembo do not have alternatives in those sizes, there are other brands that surely do. Then there are lots of people updating to more modern items, four piston calipers, radial master cylinders etc. I doubt that was the reason Paddy has retired.
 
There are a couple of what look like P08 calipers on a 3CL I have which apparently came off a BMW. They have threaded mounts so will fit the Ceriani forks but they need shimming to centre them properly and the gap where the pads slide into the caliper is narrower ie new full thickness pads won't fit with Laverda discs. Shaved caliper ones would though.
There must be quite a few variations on this theme.
 
I have threaded BMW ( K100?) P08 calipers on the front of my bike. I did indeed find the pads were too tight when new. That's the pads I'm using at least.
Simply removed the shims that are loosely attached and they work very well. Can't speak for the offset because they run on adaptors.

I managed to get seal kits for them. The rear monster type caliper, it was just over £100 new so I grabbed it since repair kits were almost half the cost of new. The Brembo pads were through to the metal in month so clearly not ideal for my purposes.
 
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