Fuel costs where you live

In Norway atm, equiv to about €2,7 a litre petrol and diesel same, forecast to go up to €4 within a few months. Food prices were up 30% since new year anyway. Electricity has never been more expensive, first the shires with hydro schemes built with their residents money were forced to sell them to private concerns in the interest of "fairness", and now the govt has put in power cables to Europe so that the private concerns can sell "surplus" at market prices, and at the same time charge all the locals European prices. Might be looking at a massive 3% base wage rise coming up, that will perfectly balance the 30% expected rise in the cost of living.
I am in Spain for a couple of weeks, it was €1,9 locally yesterday.
 
Picked up a Japanese import 2013 Prius plug-in hybrid last Thursday.
Toyota refuses to sell them in Australia.
Highway consumption in hybrid mode is 4.4 l/100km, less than my Yamaha SRX600 single.
Around town, I just use it in electric mode and the computer calculates 199 km per litre (which is I think the limit on the display).
Apparently the computer will start the motor after 3 months to prevent the fuel going stale.
So I will check the prices in 3 months :)
 
Guys - remind me - what again was fuel, please?


Lothar
(who charged his car free of cost at the local Aldi store last week [the "F**ck you, Putin!" car] and collects solar energy ) and hasn't ridden his motorbike since last fall)
 
Andy said:
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Got. La Cala de Mijas. Today it is the Costa del Lluvia.
We also have plug in hybrids. 900km on 25 litres not uncommon. The algorithm decides when the engine starts though, and more often than once every few months, but it generally only runs for a few minutes and then the algorithm stops it.
 
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Are you running it on coal?
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My car is runing on Solar Power - most of the time at least, as I only charge it if I have sufficient solar power or go to the local "Aldi" Store, which has huge number of solar pannels on their roof top. during bad weather situations or if to many people charge, the power is from water power or windpower that is offered in their charging stations (well - I know that you can not separate it where the power locally comes from, but at least that is what they pay for and the money spent on that power is used to build new regenerative sources for power...)

I paid a total of roughly 60€ external energy cost for roughly 5.000km of driving so far due to the free charging at Aldi and at home (on sunny days only).

My house though is running on gas, which I will change to what we call an air-source heat pump (basically a fridge that produces heat instead of cooling by taking the energy out of the environment and put it into the heating water), which then gets supplied by the solar pannels and at night from the battery in my basement.
 
T.C said:
Well said Jo,
Saw this today, interesting from where I stand, probably get roasted for being too political....
Maybe the west is finally waking up though :)
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Also the west is only doing what does not harm us to much... The West has looked away for very long to keep our secure bubble up and running as much and as long as possible. All the conflicts so far were in areas we did not care about. Now it is moving towards Europe and happens right in front of our doorstep. Now we DO care...

Please let's not forget that there are no guiltless countries. All of us have intrudet or supported other countries and have influenced them one or the other way. Not sure mankind will ever live in peace... :rolleyes:
 
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My car is runing on Solar Power - most of the time at least, as I only charge it if I have sufficient solar power or go to the local "Aldi" Store, which has huge number of solar pannels on their roof top. during bad weather situations or if to many people charge, the power is from water power or windpower that is offered in their charging stations (well - I know that you can not separate it where the power locally comes from, but at least that is what they pay for and the money spent on that power is used to build new regenerative sources for power...)

I paid a total of roughly 60€ external energy cost for roughly 5.000km of driving so far due to the free charging at Aldi and at home (on sunny days only).

My house though is running on gas, which I will change to what we call an air-source heat pump (basically a fridge that produces heat instead of cooling by taking the energy out of the environment and put it into the heating water), which then gets supplied by the solar pannels and at night from the battery in my basement.
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I think you are deceiving yourself Lothar and Mr Putin is an essential partner of yours.
 
Not of me personally, but yes, Germany currently is dependent on russias oil and gas. I hope we can change this in the near future. Not saying we will be able to replace gas and oil completely, but I hope we can open us up for more offerings than just Russia's ... The best would be to be completely independent of any offering from outside, but that won't be possible. Any step closer to that is a success though.
 
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Our fuel price in Oz is thanks to Slimey it wasn't me Little John and his "world parity" policy on fuel pricing. It means 42% or around AUD20 bil a year goes from drivers pockets into the govenrment coffers.

This is also known as the "How to fuck Australia's competitive edge tax" as at the time we were a major oil exporter thnks to Bass Strait and Barrow Island?North West Shelf. This has been carried on by th current Feds of both persuasions allowing east coast gas to be priced at world parity price for sale into Australia. At least the WA State gov insisted on sequestering a percentage for state use only at a fixed cost.
 
I remember visiting Venezuela back in the early nineties. Petrol was 10c (US) per gallon. Way cheaper than even the US.

Apparently fuel was required to be sold at cost to the local population because average income was so low in the country that any taxes or corporate profiteering on basic communications would stifle any chances of the economy growing.

In Australia we have corporate profiteering/collusion, federal taxes (excise and GST) and our little friend the Premier of Victoria has now levied an extra 2.5c PER KM on electric vehicles to "claw back taxes avoided by people using cheaper electricity instead of heavily taxed petrol".
 
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nearest fuel for me (diesel) is the local fast disapearing petrol station at 1.60GBP/litre, three miles away at a Tesco (sipermarket) it is 16 cents dearer and a mile further on in the town of Sevenoaks its 18p dearer, the local filling station is loving it.
CLEM

ps its the fuel cmpany that own the local garage and single pump filling station (a requirement of the lease is that they are forced to offer fuel for sale)
Esso do not own the Tesco site, nor does BP own the Sevenoaks one, its making me think.
 
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