I'm thinking of selling, but unsure? Help!!

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Hello Laverda folk. I've been almost non existent on this forum for many years, but now I'm in need of some advice!?
My dilemma is, after 30 years of ownership, I'm pretty convinced now, that the time has come to let my old Laverda 1200 Mirage TS go. I've had it longer than my children, so it's not just like any of my other bikes, which have come & gone. It's been part of our family. But like all things, time moves on & to be fair sadly its just not being used, which is such a shame. last used probably 4-5 years ago now, then stored up. I purchased the bike in 1992 from the original owner, who purchased the bike from Sports Motorcycles in Manchester in 1981, so it has a very short pedigree of ownership. The mileage is genuinely low, being only 30Kkm, which is about 18,600miles. Over the years of ownership, it's had various Laverda servicing, Inc Caldera motors many years ago. I had it professionally resprayed, as the original paint started to blister & looked dull. I still have all the original items, which came with the bike from new, fairings, Koni shocks etc, Inc a set of Krauser panniers / frames which Sports MC fitted for the original owner.

Now my dilemma is two fold, before I just contact the Motorcycle Trade who maybe interested in a classic bike. Firstly, the bike as a result of being stored, unused, the Clutch won't engage any gears! I'm assuming the plates are now stuck fast. I've changed the oil, but still no joy. The bike starts perfectly & runs / idols nicely. I was considering trying to remove the clutch plates to un stick them, but on reading the service manual, this looks a task beyond my technical scope, well certainly beyond the tools I have. The manual pretty much scared me off!
The second dilemma is, I really haven't a clue what its value is?, especially with a clutch that doesn't work / possibly stuck together?IMG_20220703_140114.jpg

What do you suggest all? Sell as is or attempt to fix, but how? Any local knowledge to help in assisting?

Finally if anyone is interested in my machine, then please do let me know, because you are the first to hear about it.

I should say it's in pristine condition, especially for a 40 year old.😊

Richard.
 

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I had the stuck plates problem on a 1200TS unused for years, I couldn't get the clutch back to normal until I swapped out the plates. Do that and the value of the bike will be far more than it is with a stuck clutch. It is hard to sell things at the moment mind you.
 
There is a lot you can do to unstick the plates of the clutch without dismantling, but it is not for the feint hearted and since you say that you are not confident to open the primary chain case, then that may well include you, the value of the bike will drop because of the missing red coach lines by quite a margin.

Koni rear shocks were not factory, they were Marzochi and it was Calere (Steve Winterton, just to be picky)

I also have owned one longer than I have had kids, 42 years and counting, and the wrong side of 250,000 kilometres

it does look like a series 1 and they are very rare, (almost all TS's are series 11) I will wager the number is in the 2604 to 2614 region, and if I am correct the primary cover, if it does in the end have to come off) is a very easy thing to do, a bit more complicated if its a series 11 with the ignition buldge on it.

with the clutch sorted. and MOT/tax exemption declared at DVLA, my suggestion is £9500
I will give you £5000 for it
CLEM
 
You could try putting the bike on the centre stand with the rear off the ground, start the bike. engage second or third gear and then stab at the rear brake. Have clear area in front of bike or a solid wall or similar in case the bike rolls off the stand!
 
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A Mirage 1200 TS "In my dreams". Yes I'm still around reading and don't comment lately considering ;o)
Only an 1100 82/84 Suzuki Kantana could beat a Mirage on the HWY back in the early 80's for 1/2 the price.
The issue is: You can't fix a Suzuki GXWS 1100 Kantana on your Wife's kitchen table.

The 70's Breganzie Laverda's 750 twins and 1000 triples ruled the motorcycle world for a decade.

The fastest I've ridden was on a 84 Suzuki Gesker 140 MPH+ - Scared the shit outta me - She handled superb but it was the realization of the top end that changed my mind, so I kept my 70 Breganzie Laverda 750 SFO for 45 years. Top speed approx 118+ mph down any straight.

You don't need Hi-End Spd to WIN Races.
 
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Welcome back Ron,

Although a 1200TS is a nice bike and the smoothest of the 180's, in factory condition they are very slow! I have a series II TS and my 3CL is much faster.

Low compression pistons and very mild cams. As a touring bike they are great. Just don't try to race anyone.

The Suzuki's you mentioned could out run a 1200TS with two spark plugs disconnected.

As for the person wanting to sell his TS, take it out for a ride and you won't want to sell it anymore!
 
you are welcome to your opinion PFI, but a Laverda in this condition and with this two owner history will allways sell well, I will bet that my estimate is closer to final sale value than yours, which you dont actually state. And 1200 TS, post #8,my own 1200TS has just a few modifications and is still on flat top pistons (although, due to machining, compression is about 9:1 and has my oewn make solid copper head gasket) still with A11 cams, wait for Chris Booth (DoC) to tell you how she can go, or Nickdav7 who has the fastest Jota on the planet (alledgedly)
CLEM
 
But they are in the UK and they don't sell for big money here. OK Clem, £7000 max is my estimate. If that really nice well maintained and upgraded RGS that is advertised on here hasn't sold for £7750 then I can't see why a 1200TS that's been stood for a while will go for more.
Mind you it has Ron's seal of approval so who knows?
 
There is a lot you can do to unstick the plates of the clutch without dismantling, but it is not for the feint hearted and since you say that you are not confident to open the primary chain case, then that may well include you, the value of the bike will drop because of the missing red coach lines by quite a margin.

Koni rear shocks were not factory, they were Marzochi and it was Calere (Steve Winterton, just to be picky)

I also have owned one longer than I have had kids, 42 years and counting, and the wrong side of 250,000 kilometres

it does look like a series 1 and they are very rare, (almost all TS's are series 11) I will wager the number is in the 2604 to 2614 region, and if I am correct the primary cover, if it does in the end have to come off) is a very easy thing to do, a bit more complicated if its a series 11 with the ignition buldge on it.

with the clutch sorted. and MOT/tax exemption declared at DVLA, my suggestion is £9500
I will give you £5000 for it
CLEM
Thanks CLEM,

O yes, sorry my mistake, the originals where Marzocchi, which I've still got. They where replaced not long after I purchased the bike, for the Koni Dial a rides, quite possibly after a recommendation. The original shocks have quite possibly done very little work, as the milage was low when I purchased the bike.
I'm considering my options now, especially what to do with the clutch plates & to gett them unstuck.

Thanks for your advice. Much appreciated 👍🏻
 

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Going through the bikes records, I came across it's original UK Warranty & Service history, from the dealer Sports Motor Cycles Manchester. That was an amazing bike shop, I remember so well as a 16-17 year old, back in the early 80s. It was stocked full of Dream Italian bikes of the day. Laverdas, Ducatis & MotoGuzzi machines, all together, along with Harley Davidson too.

Years later I would actually get to own one of the showroom bikes, my desire had been realised. But now I think its
time for another fan of these bikes to take custodianship, hopefully to the right person who will ride & cherish it. 🤞🏻
 

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I always preferred a nimble Sport Touring 750 for long distance, FAST between say 50 to 115 mph and stretch her to 120+ on long straights.

I was 5'11" at 138 lbs until I turned 62 and my body started to get old.

My 70 Laverda Breganzie 750 SF delivered that but then the thought of the heavier 1200 Mirage TS, although NOT a 140MPH Jota or Suzuki Gexster always appealed to me.

Sadly I never had the opportunity to ride one.

Something for thought: Was the Breganzie RGS concept basically a European 1200TS designed for the American market ?

Too little too late for the Breganzie factory, by 1980 the Japanese had conquered the European market.

I have to give credit to the Aussies keeping the Breganzie concept alive with their Aprilia's - Beautiful bike.

Wish I young again to enjoy an Aprilia ;o(
 
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