I'm thinking of selling, but unsure? Help!!

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rodbargee said:
it looks lovely any shots of the whole `bike
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Hi Rod

It came with black header pipes, from the Factory. Apparently Laverda at the time where fitting black pipes, randomly to some units, depending on what was available. I was told they where probably surplus Anniversary model header pipes. Some units had black fork legs etc. The Silencers where the chrome Jota pipes, but one of them rotted out at the end & couldn't be repaired easily. I still have the other, in fine fettle. So I acquired the black silencers from a Laverda collector in Penrith area. Not sure of their history, but they do look original, so maybe these where originally from an Anniversary model!? Either way, I think they nicely match the header pipes. The Silver, Chrome & Black seems to work.
 

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Strange things happen at over 130MPH whether driving a car or motorcycle - Really not a comfortable place for conservatives to be in.

Can't say if the 1200TS will do 130mph - as I said I never mounted one ;o(

I'm using Mph rather then Klics because that's the measure Canadians had back then.

I was rather amused when Canada went metric when I already a metric speedometer on my 70 Breganzie 750 SF0 - LOL

Hey my 750 was no sloth as she kept up with best Japan had to offer into the late eighties when I got married and had put her into moth balls. Only a separation after some 18 years later and a few kids I looked at my Breganzie. After a year of a total restoration in a second story pensioners apartment did I ride her again.

I no longer had a garage and access to a machine shop but I did reconstruct her and added some of my personal features to make her it a Classic Italian 750 Cafe, and by no means copying Breganzie factory 750 SFC specs.

The engine was strong to approx 7400rpm but not the 7800rpm I had when I had last used her some 20 years ago.

Yes I could flail that ride as I owned her since I was 22 years old and payed $1,600 from a layed off Italian motorcycle mechanic who's work place went for shit after the introduction of the Honda 750CB.

European dealer price for a 70 Laverda 750 SF distributed in 73 disassembled in crates was $3,100 if the dealer assembled it Vs a turn key $1,100 Honda 750 CBX.

The 70 Breganzie 750 SF engine is very capable of 7800rpm+ with them open mouth Dellorto 30A's and stock cam when you tweak her (Build the valve train strong with Ultra light valves, a little bowl porting and change the valve springs every season, light 2 into 1 exh and richen the main jets ;o)

I'm sure a set of 34mm Mikuni's would have have been just as good - at least I would have been able to use Air Filters.

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Still have a set of 34 Mikuni's if anyone is interested ;o)
 
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rbpjenkins said:
Paul is that a general observation on the market/value for Laverdas or this model in particular? what's your logic? cheers Rob
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Rob - thats Pauls opinion on bikes in general ( particularly Zanes :LOL: ) i believe - we should live for the moment and ride our Laverdas as he does - the value of anything is what someone is prepared to pay at any time - my three would go very easily at the price i paid some years ago , it doesnt really matter as they are going nowhere - if we all thought like Paul it would be a depressing world to enjoy our motorcycles in !
 
rbpjenkins said:
Paul is that a general observation on the market/value for Laverdas or this model in particular? what's your logic? cheers Rob
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Laverda motorcycles have never been worth very much on the "collectors" market apart from a brief upsurge a while back when middle class, middle aged men had time and money on their hands. They are now getting too old and plenty of bikes are coming on to the market because the owners don't ride them or have passed away. The younger punters, not quite decrepit yet want Japanese machines. It's a trend affecting all the classic bike market, apart from "iconic" contraptions in the living room of old men bored with TV or for younger ones with money wanting to out do the Jones's. That's the case of Brough or green frame 750 SS for instance. The price of a decent Vincent twin has fallen by 25% over the last few years, the same can be said for most British machinery.
There will be no going back, within a decade, all these vehicles will be banned from our towns and fuel will be rare. There's already a lot of Laverda not being ridden much because their owners are worried about fuel quality. Add to that, the fact that the hike in petrol and food prices is definite and that global warming is bringing about an upheaval in human societies, now is the time to sell, plenty out there who haven't understood.

Paul

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Sir Sidney Ruffdiamond said:
Rob - thats Pauls opinion on bikes in general ( particularly Zanes :LOL: ) i believe - we should live for the moment and ride our Laverdas as he does - the value of anything is what someone is prepared to pay at any time - my three would go very easily at the price i paid some years ago , it doesnt really matter as they are going nowhere - if we all thought like Paul it would be a depressing world to enjoy our motorcycles in !
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As for Zanes, the French importer was getting rid of them half price near 25 years back. Then the market was full of quality suspension bits, brakes and wheels from all those that blew up or infuriated the owners with countless faults. Maybe that those which survived escaped bad quality control, or they aren't ridden?

What depresses me is seeing perfectly good motorcycles, our Laverda, relegated to the role of shiny toys to show off when the weather's fine, their owners spending more time on forums or Facebook talking about them than riding the things. And when they do ride for any time or distance, they use a modern bike but will vouch for the quality of their Laverda.
Those people are responsible for pushing dealers and parts suppliers off the market, market which they have rendered inexistent, apart from trying to keep the price of the bikes up to safeguard their pockets and cosy lifestyles, thereby keeping less well off younger people from acquiring and riding the bikes.
That depresses me. Nothing to do with a way of thinking, just look out there.

Paul
 
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It’s good to have opinions and all are entitled to one - the Zanelist group is full of zanelisters who ride their bikes - in a way they are being saved despite the reputation they have and I don’t believe they are all trailer queens -

In the last year pretty well every first Sunday in the month it has rained on our Laverda meet day - last Sunday for example it didn’t stop 10 odd Laverdas turning up to talk Laverda bikes - keep riding I know you do and we should encourage everyone to keep riding on any forum where Laverdas are discussed and if a prospective owner takes an interest he or she should be cosetted - I just saw a post on a old bikes forum after the article on my Jota , he mentioned that he would like to get a 3C - there was one in Germany on a fb site , I passed the link and he is now a very happy owner having purchased it and ridden it back from Germany - hats off that’s some effort - chin up as we say in UK 😀
 
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As for Zanes, the French importer was getting rid of them half price near 25 years back. Then the market was full of quality suspension bits, brakes and wheels from all those that blew up or infuriated the owners with countless faults. Maybe that those which survived escaped bad quality control, or they aren't ridden?

What depresses me is seeing perfectly good motorcycles, our Laverda, relegated to the role of shiny toys to show off when the weather's fine, their owners spending more time on forums or Facebook talking about them than riding the things. And when they do ride for any time or distance, they use a modern bike but will vouch for the quality of their Laverda.
Those people are responsible for pushing dealers and parts suppliers off the market, market which they have rendered inexistent, apart from trying to keep the price of the bikes up to safeguard their pockets and cosy lifestyles, thereby keeping less well off younger people from acquiring and riding the bikes.
That depresses me. Nothing to do with a way of thinking, just look out there.
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Paul Marx said:
Laverda motorcycles have never been worth very much on the "collectors" market apart from a brief upsurge a while back when middle class, middle aged men had time and money on their hands. They are now getting too old and plenty of bikes are coming on to the market because the owners don't ride them or have passed away. The younger punters, not quite decrepit yet want Japanese machines. It's a trend affecting all the classic bike market, apart from "iconic" contraptions in the living room of old men bored with TV or for younger ones with money wanting to out do the Jones's. That's the case of Brough or green frame 750 SS for instance. The price of a decent Vincent twin has fallen by 25% over the last few years, the same can be said for most British machinery.
There will be no going back, within a decade, all these vehicles will be banned from our towns and fuel will be rare. There's already a lot of Laverda not being ridden much because their owners are worried about fuel quality. Add to that, the fact that the hike in petrol and food prices is definite and that global warming is bringing about an upheaval in human societies, now is the time to sell, plenty out there who haven't understood.

Paul

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So why do Ducati's keep rising in value? It's not because it's a superior machine.
 
Lee87H said:
So why do Ducati's keep rising in value? It's not because it's a superior machine.
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You’re right old Ducrappis aren’t any better or worse than many old Laverdas. The difference is Ducatis are still being built and winning races whilst Laverdas are not. Go figure.
 
Andy J said:
You’re right old Ducrappis aren’t any better or worse than many old Laverdas. The difference is Ducatis are still being built and winning races whilst Laverdas are not. Go figure.
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Does it matter? Laverdas are usually the choice of individuals, there aren't many individuals left so enjoy it.
 
Unfortunately there is no comparison between a brand that hasn’t been in production for decades and one that not only sells brand new machines of all sorts, but competes in MotoGP at the very highest level. One brand relies solely on nostalgia and tradition and the other is on the cutting edge of technology. Guess who is providing the bikes for the latest iteration of electric racing? This may not appeal to us oldsters, but I sure think it does to the 20/30’s who will be the ones keeping motorcycling alive for another 100 years.

At 69, I will be keeping my RGS, but I’d love to have an electric cycle too. I have enjoyed every electric car I’ve driven!
 
Paul Marx said:
Laverda motorcycles have never been worth very much on the "collectors" market apart from a brief upsurge a while back when middle class, middle aged men had time and money on their hands. They are now getting too old and plenty of bikes are coming on to the market because the owners don't ride them or have passed away. The younger punters, not quite decrepit yet want Japanese machines. It's a trend affecting all the classic bike market, apart from "iconic" contraptions in the living room of old men bored with TV or for younger ones with money wanting to out do the Jones's. That's the case of Brough or green frame 750 SS for instance. The price of a decent Vincent twin has fallen by 25% over the last few years, the same can be said for most British machinery.
There will be no going back, within a decade, all these vehicles will be banned from our towns and fuel will be rare. There's already a lot of Laverda not being ridden much because their owners are worried about fuel quality. Add to that, the fact that the hike in petrol and food prices is definite and that global warming is bringing about an upheaval in human societies, now is the time to sell, plenty out there who haven't understood.

Paul

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sad to say I agree with your observations, you only have to look at the passion, knowledge and ingenuity evident in this forum required to keep bikes running - that isn't going to survive another generation
 
sorry PFI you lose!
1200TS sold at Stafford £8500 (with buyers cammision and vat £10,030)
1200TS sold at NMM £0775 (with buyers commission and vat £11,580.40)

whats the latest on the frozen clutch?
CLEM
 
Yeah! good looking bike, provenance, spend a bit (sub 500) on it so it runs and sounds smooth and 12000 pounds is the target. Clem's recent sales evidence supports this. Paul Marx is right too, the time window of people who know how special these bikes are is closing. Now's the time to sell.
 
MonkeyTS said:
Hi Rod

It came with black header pipes, from the Factory. Apparently Laverda at the time where fitting black pipes, randomly to some units, depending on what was available. I was told they where probably surplus Anniversary model header pipes. Some units had black fork legs etc. The Silencers where the chrome Jota pipes, but one of them rotted out at the end & couldn't be repaired easily. I still have the other, in fine fettle. So I acquired the black silencers from a Laverda collector in Penrith area. Not sure of their history, but they do look original, so maybe these where originally from an Anniversary model!? Either way, I think they nicely match the header pipes. The Silver, Chrome & Black seems to work.
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Look at that bike, pic post #21. Lovely.
 
Diablo Loco said:
Yeah! good looking bike, provenance, spend a bit (sub 500) on it so it runs and sounds smooth and 12000 pounds is the target. Clem's recent sales evidence supports this. Paul Marx is right too, the time window of people who know how special these bikes are is closing. Now's the time to sell.
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Sell now and loose some money, or keep and loose it all but enjoy the bikes.
😃

Paul
 
Dunno what the current state of play is regarding this but if it were me I would hang onto it whatever .
With historical status , no tax , or mot to worry about , if you`re not riding it then no insurance either , the only cost is the space it`s taking up , which wouldn`t be much .
If your`re not using it much then if it was the case that you intended to replace it with another bike than the odds are that you wouldn`t use that much either , so if you`re going to have a bike sitting around doing nothing it may as well be the Laverda .
If the intention is to go bikeless , just sell and take the cash then I still think you might regret it in the future .
Financial considerations aside , it`s just a nice thing to have .
 
Historical status an contribution to value has a time window. Apart from truly unique history making vehicles, iconic vehicles, the "cooking models" rise, plateau in value then drop in value.
Paul Marx is right.

My 'Anne Elk' theory is that it correlates to people living with disposable income, capable of using the vehicle and having intimate knowledge being exposed to the subject vehicle in their youth. So we're talking say 50 years.

I can rattle off examples. Austin 7 anyone?
 
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