Importing Laverda parts from UK

lavgert

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Hi, I have ordered some small LAVERDA parts from Motalia/UK on 16. February - GBP 226,14 roughly EUR 264,–. Delivery time because of customs was today - 18. March. I had to wait more than 4 weeks and payed EUR 73,55,- customs duties!!! Fuck, fuck, fuck!!!
Ciao, Gert
 
All partof leaving the EU...I done a small exercise on importing a bike from the UK into Ireland before and after UK leaving the EU....it's not good....I won't be buying anymore bikes from the UK....

Before Brexit
£10000 bike.
£10000 = €11777
Transport to Ireland €300
Total....€12077.
Post Brexit.

£10k = €11777+€300=€12077
+10%import duty=€1207
=€13284
+23% Vat =€3055
Total....€16,339.
 
Are you sure VAT is now being applied to used bikes because they were always VAT free. The tax is charged from new and the first registered keeper is liable, after that they're clear. Dealers have to pay VAT on their profit alone.
 
Are you sure VAT is now being applied to used bikes because they were always VAT free. The tax is charged from new and the first registered keeper is liable, after that they're clear. Dealers have to pay VAT on their profit alone.
Because it is coming from a non EU country it attracts vat....same as I we bring a bike in from the USA
 
Are you sure VAT is now being applied to used bikes because they were always VAT free. The tax is charged from new and the first registered keeper is liable, after that they're clear. Dealers have to pay VAT on their profit alone.
There's not only VAT but import duty.

Paul
 
All partof leaving the EU...I done a small exercise on importing a bike from the UK into Ireland before and after UK leaving the EU....it's not good....I won't be buying anymore bikes from the UK....

Before Brexit
£10000 bike.
£10000 = €11777
Transport to Ireland €300
Total....€12077.
Post Brexit.

£10k = €11777+€300=€12077
+10%import duty=€1207
=€13284
+23% Vat =€3055
Total....€16,339.
You going to stop collecting Bantams?

Paul
 
And no tax.

Paul
wrong. Import tax starts at a value of roughly 5€ and very often is also calculated on the total value of the parcel (including shipping costs...). Or to be more precise: below 5€, Tax would be less than 1€, which they do not collect. So - two parcels means 2 times shipping costs without savings on taxes. At least for Germany.
 
Indeed wrong Paul ..
Here are the (Belgian) import rules.

1. Consignments of negligible value
- Parcels with a value up to and including € 22: no extra charges.
- Parcels with a value of more than € 22: extra charges. VAT, for example. If the parcel has a value of more than € 150, you will also have to pay import duties. These parcels are also subject to clearance costs. The payments are to be settled with the courier.

2. Consignments of a non-commercial nature between private individuals
- Goods dispatched up to a value of € 45 and meeting certain conditions are granted exemption from duties and taxes (import duties and VAT).
- In addition to this value restriction, certain products are also subject to a quantity restriction.
- No exemption shall be granted for alcoholic products, perfume, toilet water, tobacco and tobacco products... ;)
 
In general, when you buy something new from the UK to ship to the EU the seller should deduct VAT then the EU country would apply its VAT for a nett zero cost.

If you get your backside tickled when importing secondhand goods from the UK where VAT is not applied, then the EU country government charging you VAT is taking the pi$$ not the UK.
 
I am no expert, but yes that is my understanding - that VAT is a local tax at the point of purchase. So stuff coming from Germany [for example] should be sold without MWST and then UK VAT gets added as it is the place of purchase.
 
Hi, I have ordered some small LAVERDA parts from Motalia/UK on 16. February - GBP 226,14 roughly EUR 264,–. Delivery time because of customs was today - 18. March. I had to wait more than 4 weeks and payed EUR 73,55,- customs duties!!! Fuck, fuck, fuck!!!
Ciao, Gert
Surprise Gert, the UK is not in the EU anymore, nobody tell you? ;) Sorry, anyway I think they charge you not enough, since we have to pay Tax (20% in Austria) and Zoll (20% too), also from the shipping costs! you should pay actually € 106.- custom dutys, seriously. If you import something from outside EU it start actually from € 100.-
 
There is theory and practice. Luckily for us, the two only coincide in authoritarian regimes.

I send and receive parcels from the UK nearly every week. Occasionally stuff from the States, Australia or Canada.
The theory is that I pay taxes, VAT, import duty and am sexually harassed by the delivery person.
The practice is rien, nothing, niente, nix... I have three times in my life paid import duties. Once, on a Laverda 200 Gemini bought in California, once on an Epihone SG bought in the States and at the beginning of January last on the oil radiator take offs of my very own 3C which Keith Nairn had forgotten to put on my engine. That, because beginning of January, nobody had understood yet that Brexit is an invitation to fraud.
On small transactions and in view of the volume of private commercial exchanges, the customs administrations have no time, personnel, inclination to get the money in. It would probably cost more than it's worth.

The universal practice is to under declare the value of what you're sending so as not to awaken the taxman from his slumber. Everybody does it, it just has to be done intelligently; don't imagine the tax man will believe that your short wheel base 250 Ferrari is worth €130 or the your 5kg of coke is worth £50.
I imagine that it's like running a shop. You know that 1% or whatever of your goods are going to be stolen or damaged. That is reflected in your sale price.
So, when somebody in the UK sends you €250 worth of goods, he should declare the value as €130 or send you two parcels with a declared value of €125. If your country charges import duty on parcels of €125 declared value, you should seriously consider moving out.

Paul
 
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