Laverda 1200 in France

Found this for sale on faecebook. I'll post the link and a couple of photos.

I quite like it.

Jim

1200 for sale

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Agreed. It should be original, un-ridden and stored in his living room. Only way to guarantee your bike will never be instantly and permanently devalued.

Now it is nothing but a very attractive bike worth a lot of money that looks like it would be very a enjoyable bike to ride!

Jim
No, no no.
You need a crate.

Paul
 
Well, having someone else's name stamped on the engine would put me off. If every owner did it there would be crap written all over the thing. It would be different if he was someone famous like Mike Hailwood or Steve McQueen, but some unknown bloke's graffiti? No thanks. It's just vandalism.
 
What if the car or bike is a custom build? Why shouldn’t he sign his work? I regret not having put my name as builder on the car I built and later sold. It was the culmination of a lifetime’s gathering of skill and knowledge and I should have put a data tag on it somewhere discreet.
 
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I can't really see the point unless you're a professional engine builder wanting to advertise your work. I guess it's possible that the guy is a well-known Laverda engine builder in France, and people look for engines with his name on them. But it seems unlikely otherwise his name would be familiar to readers of this forum. Am I the only person who's never heard of D DEBLAERE?

I have no problem with custom builders putting their name on parts they produce. That's perfectly normal product identification and marketing. But putting your name on a factory-built crankcase is akin to taking credit for someone else's work, and disrespectful to the manufacturer in my opinion. If it's really been so altered that it needs to be differentiated from other engines, surely a couple of letters as an addendum to the engine number would suffice, rather than a full name. But even that is unnecessary if it's well documented. The engine number itself is a unique identifier.

If he's a talentless nobody like 99% of us, then putting your name on it for no other reason that you owned it seems pretty stupid to me, and nothing more than self-aggrandisement. If that's the case, then can't help making the inference that the bloke is a wanker. By all means paint your name on the tank or side panels if that sort of thing appeals to you. It can be re-painted by the next owner. But a stamped crankcase is difficult to put right.

I'd never dream of defacing a crankcase by stamping my name on it, no matter what kind of custom alterations I'd made to it. With originality being worth something in the classic bike world, rightly or wrongly, any departure from original appearance is going to devalue a bike.

Anyway, it's just my opinion, but I can see that I'm fighting a losing battle here, so I'll make no further comment on the subject. Maybe pointless self-promotion is more acceptable than I thought.
 
I found it interesting that once you moved up into Management something odd happened, you forget about anything technical and become obsessed with Marketing and Branding and Advertising and buzz words and slogans. Everything suddenly needs the Company name, slogan, signage, special colour etc etc. It's been Branded maybe. Might explain this, maybe it needs a Sociology Study.
 
It's your bike to do whatever you want with it. If I was in the market for a SFC asnd it was the only one available and the price is right it wouldn't bother me if someones name is stamped into the crankcase. How often do you look at the numbers anyway.
Where's it stamped, could be internal, no ones mentioned where the stamp is.
 
All I did was point out to Marnix that this was a previous owner and the seller of our friend Loïcs 74 SFC.
Interesting to have met him since he's based 70 km from me and I've known of him 45 years.
That SFC was stamped next to the engine n° on the crankcase. That 74 SFC was the first SFC I tried and convinced me to find one which I did 8 months later.
The seller of the bike himself points out in his add that the 1200 was built by Andrighetto, who, in theory, only stamps his replica SFCs.

I always look at engine numbers on Laverda motorcycles, particularly on bikes I'm interested in buying, otherwise it's an interesting insight into Laverda history because people writing books don't look at bikes, they mostly publish hear say.
Looking at numbers if you're in the market for a 750 SFC can make the difference between being a proud owner and hiring a lawyer for 10 years.

End of story. But I still don't understand why that 1200 has in any way been shot down in full flight.
It looks like a nice bike apart from that colour.

Paul
 
What if the car or bike is a custom build? Why shouldn’t he sign his work? I regret not having put my name as builder on the car I built and later sold. It was the culmination of a lifetime’s gathering of skill and knowledge and I should have put a data tag on it somewhere discreet.
I used to do cnc programming and machining for worktops in kitchens and loads of other stuff. When we had an order from someone quite well known I used to sign the underneath 😂.
 
if it was my bike and my engine build I would be doing everything that I possibly could to hide the fact that I had in the past "got at it"

a bloke localy has a Martin Suzuki GSX1100 that he built and rarely uses, when it does get seen, local pub on Sunday lunchtime perhaps a 5 kilometre run, people always laugh at his "racing" number plates and in white letters each side on the screen "rider M Friend"

CLEM
 
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So are you saying that since Van Gogh never sold any painting while he was alive and he died an amateur painter, he was being presumptuous to sign his work? The same with putting the driver and mechanics names on race cars back in the day?
 
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