Laverdas bomb at Bonham's Stafford auction

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terry sage said:
Hi Shuggie, sorry to hear about your recent issues i really cant comment on your issues. But knowing Adam (sir Sydney) he is one of the good guys , has helped me in the past and would never knowingly be party to under hand dealings. I have never had a problem with Mal either. Hope you reach resolution
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Hi Terry
Thanks for your kind comments, it's appreciated.
I've mentioned it to both of them, Ruffdiamond says he can't see any issue with the paintwork and Malcoms response was boll**KS and then I was blocked. The fact is this RGS has done over 100k miles and I was told it was 30k by Malcolm.
I'm left with the baby and it feels sore. I'm left to sort it and that doesn't feel great. This RGS went on sale a month after Ruffdiamond bought it from Malcolm, imho it was all known but nothing was said. That's the pits

I've not put this up to create a long running row, just to get it out in the open and tbh I feel better now. The RGS isn't a bad bike by any means , just it had expensive faults which have cost me.
 
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terry sage said:
Paul i cant help myself, you must get out of bed every morning and think how can i piss someone off today, a definite glass half full type of bloke. Can you let people have opinions and not feel the need to put them down
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Please explain in what cheap Laverda motorcycles therefore purchasable by more people is putting people down?
I sometimes wonder if this isn't an old Yuppie forum rather than a motorcycle forum.
Remember Yuppies? Stock exchange heroes, a brave new world it was.
Paul
 
Shuggie said:
Hi Terry
Thanks for your kind comments, it's appreciated.
I've mentioned it to both of them, Ruffdiamond says he can't see any issue with the paintwork and Malcoms response was boll**KS and then I was blocked. The fact is this RGS has done over 100k miles and I was told it was 30k by Malcolm.
I'm left with the baby and it feels sore. I'm left to sort it and that doesn't feel great. This RGS went on sale a month after Ruffdiamond bought it from Malcolm, imho it was all known but nothing was said. That's the pits

I've not put this up to create a long running row, just to get it out in the open and tbh I feel better now. The RGS isn't a bad bike by any means , just it had expensive faults which have cost me.
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I can relate to that, guy doesn't like to hear the truth.

piet
 
Something to cheer you up, Paul😁
 

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truth is, a lot of bikes, in particular, british twins are now not fetching what some of the owners had hoped for,
market forces I guess, anyone who has spent a lot in restoring any bikes over the last few years certainly wont be getting their money back,
but thats is par for the course, you mostly never do. Only buyers dictate the value/price, a lot of the bikes were no reserve, so bid what you want to pay.! Stuart
 
sfcpiet said:
I can relate to that, guy doesn't like to hear the truth.

piet
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Malcolm spent an hour and a half on the phone selling the yellow RGS to me after Ruffdiamond got him involved in his sale and I couldn't get him off the phone. It was such a hard sell that had me being genuinely believing him, sent him a pack of organic smoked Scottish salmon foc to thank him for his help.

And Ruffdiamond obviously found his purchase from Malcolm Cox to be as disappointing as I've found it because researching it , the yellow RGS went in sale a month after he got it...at £12500 a RGS has to be well nigh perfect. So it was offloaded to a newbie.

These are the faults with it:
Covered well over 100k verified from previous owner when Malcolm clearly said around 30k
Back brake u/s
Both master cylinders partially seized
Clutch wooden and heavy.
Front brake wooden.
Fuel.gauge erratic jumps up and down or doesn't indicate.
Temp gauge doesn't work.
All the body panels has grooves in the base coat requiring a complete respray.
Brake pads were contaminated, cleaned and reused.
Throttle cable worn rusty and taped up with insulation tape.

I'm not posting this just because I'm on a grump, people should know about this regarding this bike I bought from Paul Ambruster which was represented as fully restored and stunning by Malcolm Cox. The internet being what it is means this will show up on searches and protect others.
 

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terry sage said:
Paul i cant help myself, you must get out of bed every morning and think how can i piss someone off today, a definite glass half full type of bloke. Can you let people have opinions and not feel the need to put them down
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Cant disagree. I’m sure he’s a lovely lad, but the goal of pressing buttons for no apparent reason is a head shaker.
 
SkinnyPinny said:
truth is, a lot of bikes, in particular, british twins are now not fetching what some of the owners had hoped for,
market forces I guess, anyone who has spent a lot in restoring any bikes over the last few years certainly wont be getting their money back,
but thats is par for the course, you mostly never do. Only buyers dictate the value/price, a lot of the bikes were no reserve, so bid what you want to pay.! Stuart
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All the Brit bike brigade are now too old, all selling up, and the younger generation dont want/ don’t remember/ dont aspire to owning one. There will be a glut of Brit bikes for sale as the oldies croak and they will end up as ornaments in trendy cafes. Laverdas are next on the list…I think Paul was trying to say don’t worry about it’s monetary value, get on and wear it out while you still can!
 
Exmoor beast said:
All the Brit bike brigade are now too old, all selling up, and the younger generation dont want/ don’t remember/ dont aspire to owning one. There will be a glut of Brit bikes for sale as the oldies croak and they will end up as ornaments in trendy cafes. Laverdas are next on the list…I think Paul was trying to say don’t worry about it’s monetary value, get on and wear it out while you still can!
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Something like that.
Or be an armchair investor, plenty of failed ones about and don't pretend to be a motorcyclist, the two are incompatible.
And rather than parade proudly with a Laverda Tee shirt, which I do, be pleased that the prices will make the bikes more accessible and more often on the road than in shows.
Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
Something like that.
Or be an armchair investor, plenty of failed ones about and don't pretend to be a motorcyclist, the two are incompatible.
And rather than parade proudly with a Laverda Tee shirt, which I do, be pleased that the prices will make the bikes more accessible and more often on the road than in shows.
Paul
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The Vincent is a good example- I know a guy that owns two big Vinnies, he has to be cagey about who knows, he’s paranoid about theft and ownership has become all about how much it’s worth not about the bike. I bought a ‘52 Comet for £3000 in about 1989 and the bike market had just slumped ..people thought I was mad for paying even that much.
 
Shuggie said:
Hi Terry
Thanks for your kind comments, it's appreciated.
I've mentioned it to both of them, Ruffdiamond says he can't see any issue with the paintwork and Malcoms response was boll**KS and then I was blocked. The fact is this RGS has done over 100k miles and I was told it was 30k by Malcolm.
I'm left with the baby and it feels sore. I'm left to sort it and that doesn't feel great. This RGS went on sale a month after Ruffdiamond bought it from Malcolm, imho it was all known but nothing was said. That's the pits

I've not put this up to create a long running row, just to get it out in the open and tbh I feel better now. The RGS isn't a bad bike by any means , just it had expensive faults which have cost me.
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Hi Shug,

Irrespective of the state of the bike that you've bought, I think there may be a case of mistaken identity - Paul Armbruster and 'Sydney Ruffdiamond' are two entirely different people.
Sydney (AKA Adam) was not the owner or seller of the (former) yellow RGS.

I hope this hasn't tarnished your intro to Laverda ownership. There is a huge amount of global knowledge here, mixed up with (generally harmless) banter.
Good luck with your ongoing refurb.

Alan😊
 
Exmoor beast said:
The Vincent is a good example- I know a guy that owns two big Vinnies, he has to be cagey about who knows, he’s paranoid about theft and ownership has become all about how much it’s worth not about the bike. I bought a ‘52 Comet for £3000 in about 1989 and the bike market had just slumped ..people thought I was mad for paying even that much.
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The level of self importance and high ranking status of Vincent owners , among all other bike owners, is humorous to observe, but can induce involuntary vomiting when listening to or talking to owners.
 
Exmoor beast said:
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This is going to make for some good bed-time reading ......... A little like the story of Edward Heath MP , ex Pime Minister ....... Was invited to a recently deceased friends house , with others , to take away a " small item " , as a reminder of their friendship ......... Ended up walking away with the deceased`s entire classical CD collection ......
 
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rocketonarail said:
This is going to make for some good bed-time reading ......... A little like the story of Edward Heath MP , ex Pime Minister ....... Was invited to a recently deceased friends house , with others , to take away a " small item " , as a reminder of their friendship ......... Ended up walking away with the deceased`s entire classical CD collection ......
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Confirmed Batchelor Ted Heath…never did like him. Vincent story is unbelievable.
 
Exmoor beast said:
The Vincent is a good example- I know a guy that owns two big Vinnies, he has to be cagey about who knows, he’s paranoid about theft and ownership has become all about how much it’s worth not about the bike. I bought a ‘52 Comet for £3000 in about 1989 and the bike market had just slumped ..people thought I was mad for paying even that much.
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He can take them out now, they're worth 50% of what they were selling for 10 years back. Not taking into account inflation.
That's the problem with bikes of value, they're not ridden for fear of damage or theft.
How many 750 SFCs do you see about nowadays apart from track days, and even then?
Paul
 
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