MV AGUSTA 750 S

Always loved these, until I actually rode one. One of the greatest disappointments of my life. Despite a freshly overhauled engine in top fettle, an old dog of an SF could have run circles around it! Maybe even a good GT... :eek:

Heavy, cumbersome and slow. They just look pretty and make the right sort of noises.

piet
 
I can't make up my mind between a Ducati 750 Sport Round Case or the MV 750S or 750S America.
Three truly Gorgeous bikes!
 
I have a friend named José—a seasoned mechanic and a truly wonderful person—who owns this MV Agusta; it remains in its original condition.
He also owns a 750 Sei, a Ducati 750, and other bikes.
He acquired these machines—along with Ferraris, Mercedes, and more—during his career as a bodywork specialist.
Now over 70, he was savvy enough to make great deals back when such opportunities still existed.
He is a man who deserves great respect; I take pleasure in showcasing his work whenever I can, and I always take my hat off to him.
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It was at the vintage vehicle show in Toulouse.
My Laverda does justice to these fabulous motorcycles.
All the other motorcycles belong to him.

José CABRERIZO

Its history

https://www.autoplus.fr/actualite/i...ulousain-construit-propre-voiture-583311.html

His work

 
sfcpiet said:
Always loved these, until I actually rode one. One of the greatest disappointments of my life. Despite a freshly overhauled engine in top fettle, an old dog of an SF could have run circles around it! Maybe even a good GT... :eek:

Heavy, cumbersome and slow. They just look pretty and make the right sort of noises.

piet
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I took the pics on Saturday during the Laverda Connection Oberpfalz (LCO) event in Trabitz.
The event attracts all kinds of interesting non-Laverda vehicles, 2 and 4 wheel.
The looks of the 750 MV have always appealed to me, and it sounds 'right'.
Performance is an issue, but AFAIK the Magni chain driven MV's actually delivered.
The 1100 Cento Valli Schneider/Hansen MV supposedly performed even better.
 
Gerald said:
I took the pics on Saturday during the Laverda Connection Oberpfalz (LCO) event in Trabitz.
The event attracts all kinds of interesting non-Laverda vehicles, 2 and 4 wheel.
The looks of the 750 MV have always appealed to me, and it sounds 'right'.
Performance is an issue, but AFAIK the Magni chain driven MV's actually delivered.
The 1100 Cento Valli Schneider/Hansen MV supposedly performed even better.
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The later 800 and larger were actually tuned for quite a bit of performance.

But the 750 is close to the original 600 touring model, itself based on the 1940s Remor design and is sadly lacking in the pony department. Quoted at 67hp, the same as the Honda 750/4, I'd guess there may be about 50 available... don't think the shaft drive alone is the anchor. Valve timing, compression, carb sizes etc are very conservative.

I truely enjoyed working on the engines though, the precision is quite unbelievable, especially considering the production dates. Guess MVs' aviation legacy played a large part there.

A friend owns a 500/3 GP replica, THAT is a marvellous engine!:love:

piet
 
I was at a bit away from the MV when it left.
You had the 3C with leaking carb, wore a NALOC T-Shirt?
 
I don't like when people rev cold engines. And yes, this includes Piero Laverda doing it...

I cut friendship (not only, but also) due to a person doing this to a bike I owned, although I asked him not to do it and he agreed not to do it. The Moment he turned on the next street, 30 meters away from me, he pulled WOT in every gear. When he returned, I did not say anything, I just took the keys off the bike, parkt it, turned around and went inside. I never spoke with him again.

It was just the last drop that made the barrel overflow for me. It was showing his ignorance and missing respect for my property and - much worse - for me and our relationship.

It just does not feel right to rev a cold engine. They do it for show while it just makes people shake their heads, thinking "what an idiot".

roughly 42 years ago, I was on Michael Schumacher's fathers Go-Cart track, when a guy showed up with a chrome framed cart with 3 (!!) hydraulic brakes, sequentaly shifted 250ccm Yamaha RD 350 LC 2-cylinder 2-stroke engine, spoilers and instruments on the thing etc. It looked a bit like a Formula 1 car in sun-yellow.

They kick-started the engine and he rolled on the track, when a very quick cart (potentially Michael before he got famous?!? Driving style had loads of similarities, but I can not proof it) turned around the 180° curve where In and Out of the track is. He slowed down, looked at the guy and gestured he should push throttle. The "formula-1-alike" Cart driver looked at the instruments and showed him "no-no", as water temperature wasn't where it should be I guess.

It took 2 or 3 rounds and they came along again at the same place, the quick driver showing again "come on, let's push it". The Formula1-alike cart driver looked again at the instruments, pulled clutch, shifted down 2 or 3 times and what then came, was out of this world... "paaaah, paaaah, paaah, paaah - pah, pa, pah Paaaaaaaah, paaah, paa" - you could hear him shifting and accelerating, breaking etc. along the whole track! The fast rider tried to follow - no f*cking chance!.

I spoke later to the "formula-1" driver. At this time, there was no class for such carts to race them in, at leat not with 350ccm engines afaik. I asked him what this is for then: "For fun. I make them for friends, with 250 and 350 engines. The 350 is tuned for close to 70HP." on a cart that weights less than 100kg... no wonder, he needed the spoilers and the rear wing... I found it very smart he didn't get tempted to show-off and waited until the engine was warm enough.
 
Shifter carts are a hoot!

Once had the opportunity to try out a mates project cart with a 250cc Kawasaki MX engine, something like 55+hp and 6 gears. The Dahlemer Binz airfield in the Eifel hills hosts a nice little cart track, tight and pretty bumpy, totally crazy literally flying down the 150 metre straight at over 140kmh... never got higher than 4th. gear. I was completely knackered after only ten laps.

Any internal combustion engine enjoys a bit of temperature before it is called to flex its muscles. Not only to get the juices flowing but also the get the running clearances where they ought to be. They indeed repay a little care with extended longivity.

piet
 
The MV had arrived earlier, spent maybe 1 1/2 hours at the venue.
Don't think the engine was cold by then, but I'm not an MV expert.
Agree that careful warming up engines contributes to long lasting service.
3CL is coming up to 100.00 km without rebuild, which I contribute to frequent oil changes and giving the engine time to warm up during the first 20 K's.
 
Gerald said:
The MV had arrived earlier, spent maybe 1 1/2 hours at the venue.
Don't think the engine was cold by then, but I'm not an MV expert.
Agree that careful warming up engines contributes to long lasting service.
3CL is coming up to 100.00 km without rebuild, which I contribute to frequent oil changes and giving the engine time to warm up during the first 20 K's.
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Even less than that, I think
 
sfcpiet said:
Shifter carts are a hoot!
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I don't recall the exact number, but when I challenged him why this has a rear wing/spoiler and even a front spoiler, he said that it needs them as they testet it on the Nürburgring F1 Track.. The speed he told me was way beyond 200km/h (don't recall if it was 234 or 243). :eek:

imagine that speed with your butt 5 cm above ground... scary...
 
Chris Cutler at one time owned the1972 Imola F750 Holy Trinity'; 750SFC, green frame ss and MV750.
He rode the MV on eastern creek and said it had no redeeming features other than sounding magnificent. Only the SFC remained after a few years, he strongly felt it was the best of the three by a mile. Only Laverda sold basically the same bike they raced at Imola, the others were pale imitations.
 
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