MV AGUSTA 750 S

The MV had arrived earlier, spent maybe 1 1/2 hours at the venue.
Don't think the engine was cold by then, but I'm not an MV expert.
Agree that careful warming up engines contributes to long lasting service.
3CL is coming up to 100.00 km without rebuild, which I contribute to frequent oil changes and giving the engine time to warm up during the first 20 K's.
OK, that might get him my aplogizes (as if he does care though, right?). Still think, it is way more cool when you don't show-off when driving off a meeting... simply shows you don't have to...

Years ago on a local bike meeting, (mostly Guzzis), a Guzzi Daytona sport showed up. When the guy took of some hours later, he also took of with some "music", all the Guzzi Guys wer looking in his direction. One of them said: "Don't know how they do it, but the italiens are still designing bikes with very nice sound!" I answered: "Very true, although - can you hear it?" I said, looking very worried - "What?" - "something's wrong - It's just running on two cylinders..."

Took him a second, then he started laughing out loud, shaking his head.... "The Laverda guy again..."... 😇
 
Chris Cutler at one time owned the1972 Imola F750 Holy Trinity'; 750SFC, green frame ss and MV750.
He rode the MV on eastern creek and said it had no redeeming features other than sounding magnificent. Only the SFC remained after a few years, he strongly felt it was the best of the three by a mile. Only Laverda sold basically the same bike they raced at Imola, the others were pale imitations.
Forgetting the 750S Telaio Rosso Guzzi Steve. Also grossly over-rated imho, possibly the most gutless of all the period 750s.

A mate was very excited over his 750 S2, his enthusiasm quickly evaporated after the first ride out with a selection of other italian 750s. A pretty bike to be sure, but couldn't pull the skin off a custard... and ate throttle cables for breakfast! Seems to be a Guzzi trait.

piet
 
I don't recall the exact number, but when I challenged him why this has a rear wing/spoiler and even a front spoiler, he said that it needs them as they testet it on the Nürburgring F1 Track.. The speed he told me was way beyond 200km/h (don't recall if it was 234 or 243). :eek:

imagine that speed with your butt 5 cm above ground... scary...
When you see these contraptions in action you full well understand the needs for all the aero. Their acceleration surpassed that of F1 for quite some time. Imagine getting air under that flat chassis at 200+, instant back flip!

piet
 
Forgetting the 750S Telaio Rosso Guzzi Steve. Also grossly over-rated imho, possibly the most gutless of all the period 750s.

A mate was very excited over his 750 S2, his enthusiasm quickly evaporated after the first ride out with a selection of other italian 750s. A pretty bike to be sure, but couldn't pull the skin off a custard... and ate throttle cables for breakfast! Seems to be a Guzzi trait.

piet
I rode a 750S (twin discs front, drum rear) and found the gears to extremely long for the available power... The Guzzi is nice but when you are 188cm it is small and cramped and very tiresome to ride IMHO. A black/green striped S or S3 was my dream bike for a long time (the one I rode wasn't mine) but found it uncomfortable and gutless indeed, even for a non-sporty rider like me. I did like the brakes and handling. How I ended up with a BMW is an entirely different matter as it has neither brakes nor handling!
IIRC the 750S3 with triple discs had a different gearbox or final drive. I never cared for the apple-green V7 Sport, red frames or not.

One thing I like a lot about Laverda is that they are a proper size bike if you are are northern-tall-sized.
 
I’m 189 cm tall, have 100,000 fast miles on my Guzzi Le Mans and others, have been to Guzzi factory more times than I could count and am a life long fan. My Daytona RS is a hard charging jewel too. I also have two R100GS BMWs and have found them to be the most practical, and one of the most neutral handling bikes ever made. I have led and left many groups of modern sport bikes on e.g. Furkapass in Switzerland - not all old BMWs handle poorly. An easily installed kit fixes the front brake and the rear drum is great as delivered.

We’ll see if my forthcoming Laverda experience measures up to the same standard. I have yet to ride my SFC 1000 but I generally like slow steering, fast, stable bikes and am hoping for the best. The last Laverda I actually rode was an RGS circa late 80s.
:)

PS I remember riding an American Eagle Laverda twin way back when too, idled at 300 rpm or something and I liked it. It was not fast.
 
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I've heard good things about the R100GS as well, but I've never had or been on one;. as it's a lot newer than my R90S and the earlier /5's I've had a ride on (they weren't mine), I can imagine they handle better than the earlier ones, like my R90S. I have fitted new rear shocks, progressive front springs, BT46s, replaced the steering damper + the worn mechanism, and fitted different brake pads recommended by a BMW specialist. They all help, but honestly, the Laverda owns it on handling, with my riding style, at least (I'm no Helmut Dähne!) Won't compare the Laverda's drum brakes to the BMWs ATE twin-disc system, but my old V50 with it's small Brembo brakes did a lot better, though (it was obviously not as fast, 5 years newer, and lighter, too). Probably no coincidende those American racing R90Sses had a ton of modifications done to them.

I joke a little on the R90S, but I've had it since the early 2000s, when I took it for a test ride I was sold, not really by the looks (I'm not a fan of the fairing, even if it works well enough) or handling (it still had original soapy suspension, and the brakes had been stuck so the pads were rock-hard/glazed) but by the seating position and torque, and even way back then, the price was good and the basics sound. Having had it for so long the good things outshine the quirks, it's seen more than a few different areas in the past years. If it had not been that our family-piece Laverda came up for sale I would have still been happy.
For length and bikes, it is subjective, as it also depends on your body anatomy of course (length of your limbs etc). I felt cramped and sore on that 750S, but my fathers Le Mans III felt a lot better, as did the 1100 Sport he also had for a while. I'm too much of a realist to be an immense fan of anything, but Guzzi's, like the BMW and my childhood-Laverda, do have a special place for me :) I've covered a lot of kilometers to and from work (160km round trip, each day, for years) on that V50, it never let me really down in rain, snow, hail or sunshine. Niggles and maintance, sure, but that's about it.

I had to sell it to make room for the BMW -truthfully it was mostly clapped out after all those kilometers and needed a good overhaul and renovation. I also changed jobs, meant I worked at bicycle-distance, but still kind of regret selling it.
I fitted different handlebars, and altered the brakes from "integrated" to conventional, it was a small-ish but really nice handling little bike which made me, size-wise, look rediculous too.

I never regretted getting that BMW, even if it made me the laughing stock for my Guzzi, Honda and Yamaha minded friends and family members! -a 25-ish years old getting a greybeard-bike ;)

We are getting a bit off-topic from the gorgeous looking MV's though!
 
My only 2 short rides on BMWs were disappointing. The first was bent, or so the owner said; it steered horribly in the 5 minutes I rode it. The owner got rid of it very quickly; it was a typical 1980s 1000cc twin model. The second was a Pari Dakar big tank early edition. I couldn't believe how slow and ponderous it was. I didnt like anything about it; again, a 5-minute ride around a block. Who knows, it might have had its 30-litre fuel tank filled to the brim; I know that effect on my Atlas when its 25-litre tank is full. Hardly a fair test; they sell thousands of late model GS, we have had them on Snowy Rides and there blisterinly fast. People love them. Just my very limited experiences over the years. I do like their idea of supple suspension and not beating up the rider.
 
I think the R100GS was the best of all the GS series to date. Bit more grunt than the GS80. I like that it has the 21"front wheel and single disc, less unsprung weight. And being an old air head it has the simplicity to fix things on the side of the road. The only down side I find is it's weight when riding in soft sand. But most of my riding is on bush tracks which is mostly gravel.
 
I think the R100GS was the best of all the GS series to date. Bit more grunt than the GS80. I like that it has the 21"front wheel and single disc, less unsprung weight. And being an old air head it has the simplicity to fix things on the side of the road. The only down side I find is it's weight when riding in soft sand. But most of my riding is on bush tracks which is mostly gravel.
I’ve own my 1991 R100GS ‘bumblebee’ since new. It’s taken me everywhere, now 236,000kns, this year I finally installed a new clutch, and I installed a taller Seibenrock 5th gear which has been a revelation! It’s taken me into dirt roads deep into Mexico twice for a month, all over North America..if I could figure nd one problem with it, I’d say it’s a tad slow at 60 hp, but the engine had very usable power everywhere,
It’s now a street queen on a collector plate, swapped dirt tires for Metzeler Tourance tires for great paved road capability and casual forest service roads.
 
Bought a GS100 Para-lever, but kept my R100/7. Don't need two Beemers.
Cray 'Millenium Engine'.
Twin plugged, gas flowed, 40mm carburettors.
Pre 81 flywheel with post 81 clutch.
Post 81 driveshaft and gearbox.
R90S 31:11 Bevel box.
Progressive fork springs, Koni dial-a-rides.
Tyres to suit the conditions I think I'll be riding in.
Over 400,000kms so far.
 

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