power zap from various rear chains.

Dellortoman said:
You must have had your head in the sand Quentin  :D
Scottoilers have been around for 30+ years.
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Head firmly held in the fresh air, Cam - you're getting me confused with my ostrich brother  :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:

I like the idea of Scottoilers. Totally agree with Lothar that sprocket-roller mating surfaces require lubrication. If I can find one I'll fit it to both bikes. I rode around within Oz for 10 years on non-O-ring chains. Some brands seemed to last so much better than others. If it's anything like bicycles, replacing chains early before they wear the sprockets can prolong the life of said cogs many times over. There are several 11 speed bicycle cassettes that retail for close to $500, chainrings aren't much cheaper - people neglect chain maintenance and wear at their peril (mostly their wallet's peril!).

Thing that bothers me with the aerosol chain spray stuff is it is difficult to direct cleanly onto the rollers and the stuff ends up on the plates where it does nothing and is as sticky and gooey as hell. ASFAIC the outside plates should be clean-as after lubing. Maybe painting it on with a brush would be more efficient!

As for 1.5 sec a lap .... hmmm, maybe on the full Nurburgring!!
 
Way back before the invention of aerosol chain lube, I used to use a toothbrush to apply a grease to the chain rollers. The technique was to put the bike on the centre stand with the back wheel clear of the ground, start the engine, put it in 1st gear and let it idle so the chain moves around while you apply the greasy toothbrush to the inside of the bottom chain run. You had to be careful not to get too close to the rear sprocket though, otherwise it would grab the toothbrush and drag it around the sprocket, usually biting its head off in the process.

Then I discovered Duckhams chain lube. That stuff was a whole different comedy of errors.
 
Piranha Brother 2 said:
Thing that bothers me with the aerosol chain spray stuff is it is difficult to direct cleanly onto the rollers and the stuff ends up on the plates where it does nothing and is as sticky and gooey as hell. ASFAIC the outside plates should be clean-as after lubing. Maybe painting it on with a brush would be more efficient!
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well - at least it protects the chain from rust...  :LOL:

I like the concept of the scott-oiler quite much as it brings the lubricating fluid where it is needed and uses physics to bring it there (underpressure from the inlet, centrifugal forces from the chainwheel). I find it a very clever solution, even though it is not 100% easy to set up or even mount, fill etc.  The new ones that are electronically controlled might do a better job, but I am already quite happy with the one I have...
 
The older vacuum valve ones are dead simple, no way I want even more electronics on my bike with a huge poxy panel on the bars. What I like is it is a really thin film of oil that just keeps the sprockets and chain clean, no thick gunk buildup or flinging on the bikes I have fitted it to, and the chain hasn?t got that stiffness that o-ring chains get after a time even when still well within wear.
 
Dellortoman said:
Then I discovered Duckhams chain lube. That stuff was a whole different comedy of errors.
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Twins, eh? Nice try Cam  :-*  We may ride 'em but them we ain't ... nor do we look alike!

Ah, Duckhams ... left a brand new tin of that stuff as hot liquid all over my mate's mum's white lino kitchen floor  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o ... cleaning up that one before she came home was ... er, interesting! Forgot to put the nail in the holes in handle and bucket when lifting it off the stove with the chain in it!!
 
Piranha Brother 2 said:
Forgot to put the nail in the holes in handle and bucket when lifting it off the stove with the chain in it!!
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Yes, I reckon more than a few people have been caught with the nail in the hole thing. I witnessed a mate do exactly the same thing. Fortunately it was his own kitchen floor that suffered.
I also saw a mate set fire to his beard when the Duckhams burst into flames. He was using a gas stove and the gas flame flashed over and ignited the boiling grease fumes just as he was peering into the tin. I thought about throwing my drink in his face to put him out, but he managed to snuff it out with his hands before it did any real damage. He had a very startled look on his face. Well, as much as anyone with no eyebrows can look startled.  :D
 
I was the culprit that dropped it. Pretty sure I had the nails in place but it was still able to tip, shitty system. Duckhams was a lot of work, enough even without having to clean the bloody kitchen floor, but it was great chain lube. His mum noticed a few flecks many months later on the underside of a door, we did a good cleanup job, she was amazed when she heard what it came from.
 
aerosol chain lube is good, I have used it for years and years, never had a Scotoiler, but remember chaps
squirt the chain when you get back home, or if you like the evening before you ride your bike, because they work so much better if time is elapsed so as to allow the solvents to evaporate, sure you can squirt your chain and ride off, but if you do as I mention, it stays on and last lots and lots longer, for me that can be an eight hour day, and only then do I need more lube (except if wet weather)
CLEM
 
One would assume that spraying it when you get home would have a more effective  rate of penetration than the night before you head off , hot n cold...
 
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