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Vince said:
That word has a way different meaning in some places. You know like those Commie Sweds with all that Socalism and such, I think it's the Saunas. Better not get political, it never ends well.
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I remember that old definition of a communist.

"Someone who has fuck all and wants to share it with everyone."
 
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helicopterjim said:
Fair enough. If you prefer the government telling you science vs real science that is okay with me.

Jim
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Even if you discount government sources who do you believe? Scientists as a whole are very diverse in opinions and the range of disciplines is vast. A geneticist would have no idea about cosmology and many cosmologists have broad and conflicting points of views on cosmology also. So who is right and who is wrong and is 'everything' is some respects biased or influenced.

If you like forming an opinion or doing your own research try a video by Sabine Hossenfelder.

My opinion only but I'd say smart, intelligent, balanced and overall .. beneficial perspectives.

The truth is out there whether you like it or not!
 
1200 JOTA said:
Even if you discount government sources who do you believe? Scientists as a whole are very diverse in opinions and the range of disciplines is vast. A geneticist would have no idea about cosmology and many cosmologists have broad and conflicting points of views on cosmology also. So who is right and who is wrong and is 'everything' is some respects biased or influenced.

If you like forming an opinion or doing your own research try a video by Sabine Hossenfelder.

My opinion only but I'd say smart, intelligent, balanced and overall .. beneficial perspectives.

The truth is out there whether you like it or not!
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A friend of mine is a professor ( does bat/ wildlife stuff) and a fellow prof she went to university with now is paid to discredit the facts about the harm tobacco causes for the tobacco industry. Paid a lot more than Bat lady I can assure you. Who do you believe?
 
Exmoor beast said:
A friend of mine is a professor ( does bat/ wildlife stuff) and a fellow prof she went to university with now is paid to discredit the facts about the harm tobacco causes for the tobacco industry. Paid a lot more than Bat lady I can assure you. Who do you believe?
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The point is, you can not trust ONE source. You need to widen your view, check the facts that matter and the matter of the facts and make up your own mind. It's not always true, but if the majority of the experts point in one direction and just single person point into other directions, it might well be that the majority is right (called "swarm intelligence"). But make sure you are not following just one swarm. And that there is inteligence in that swarm that makes it propably there opinion/know-how matters...
 
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Laverdalothar said:
The point is, you can not trust ONE source. You need to widen your view, check the facts that matter and the matter of the facts and make up your own mind. It's not always true, but if the majority of the experts point in one direction and just single person point into other directions, it might well be that the majority is right (called "swarm intelligence"). But make sure you are not following just one swarm... ;)
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I went out with a girl that taught me a …… few actually… anyway, a lesson.

Shocking people is a trait that gains attention.

In my humble opinion, Suzuki, Attenborough and Vincent Price are scaremongers, for nothing more than financial gain.

Okay, let’s face it, Attenborough is a feltch 😉
 
Vince said:
Peer-reviewed studies that get published in renowned journals.
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That’s fair comment - so do you disbelieve mainstream media? Gh
Laverdalothar said:
The point is, you can not trust ONE source. You need to widen your view, check the facts that matter and the matter of the facts and make up your own mind. It's not always true, but if the majority of the experts point in one direction and just single person point into other directions, it might well be that the majority is right (called "swarm intelligence"). But make sure you are not following just one swarm. And that there is inteligence in that swarm that makes it propably there opinion/know-how matters...
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my point was studies are paid for by people with a vested interest to prove they are right- as for Swarm intelligence we know what following the crowd can lead to. Covid came from bats and Trump was wrong to blame China..Now the smart money is on it coming from China which would make Trump right- that can’t be right surely!!🤔
 
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Exmoor beast said:
That’s fair comment - so do you disbelieve mainstream media? Gh

my point was studies are paid for by people with a vested interest to prove they are right- as for Swarm intelligence we know what following the crowd can lead to. Covid came from bats and Trump was wrong to blame China..Now the smart money is on it coming from China which would make Trump right- that can’t be right surely!!🤔
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We can discuss this guy offline, but I won't jump on this publically.
 
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