stalled project getting moving again

nice bike, very unique, and presumably collectable.

I ordered a pair of the stainless steel rectangular mirrors, plus "while I was at it" a new pair of the very classic goggles.... as I don't have to pay VAT, the shipping was effectively free as compared to you UK folk who get robbed by the ridiculously high VAT every bloody transaction.

off to the garage now for an hour or two of Sunday evening fettling, trying to sort electrical and wiring.

Paul LeClair
 
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as I don't have to pay VAT, the shipping was effectively free as compared to you UK folk who get robbed by the ridiculously high VAT every bloody transaction.
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Yeah 20% VAT. Spend big and tax big and still getting in debt - appararently we are doing alright!!!!

The master cylinders are alright, it will be the levers/fingers that foul.
I put my fairing as far forward as I could.
 
Hi Simon

I will wait to get the bike running and off the bike lift before I address fairing clearance issues, if any. CRG makes some really beautifully made shorty control levers that can probably be made to work on the original Brembo clutch and brake masters, if the stock brake or clutch levers become an issue.  8)

as for taxes, here in Alberta we pay a 5% Goods and Services tax that applies all across Canada, but we do not (at the moment, anyway) have any Provincial Sales tax like many of the other Canadian Provinces do, which range around an additional 7 or 8 per cent on top of the GST. Given the recent massive decline in the price of oil and the devastating effect on the local oil industry and the Alberta Government's oil royalties revenue stream, grumblings are now being made about re instating a sales tax, bloody greedy government........

Paul LeClair
 
small victory, but I will take them when I find them. When this bike was crashed it had the TS Mirage fairing on it, which got wiped out along with the headlight, turn indicators etc. Keeping in mind that electrickery is just not my thing, I just finished sorting out the wiring in the front of the bike including figuring out the turn signal wiring and fabricating the new wiring required to replace the damaged stuff.......

Paul LeClair
 
any time I think I understood something about electric wiring, I run into the next thing I need to learn...

My son (19) is having his apprenticeship as an industry mechatronic (mixture of a precision mechanic, an electrician and some other job profiles, including knowledge of welding, pneumatics, hydraulics, mechanics, electrics etc. etc.). He is a real smart guy and one of the best of his class. Any time I think I can still teach him something, I am found getting taught by him now...

Will ask him when it comes to wiring up the Motoplast... I assume he will love to do it...hopefully...  :-[
 
I really assume he will...

he came home yesterday afternoon and I asked him if he would help me, as a friend asked for help to collect a larger wardrobe in a different town and bring it to him and build it up again. He agreed right away and for the next 4 hours, we drove to the other town, took the wardrobe apart, 4  floors down into the van, over to my friends house, up one stair and re-assemble everything. Took him for a midnight dinner and it seems he enjoyed the time with the two old man...  ;)

Good boys, am really proud of them!  :D
 
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borrowed Keith's method of lowering the instruments a bit by flipping the mounting over.
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Paul
This dash/fairing set up is the same on the Jota 120, I think. What is the thinking behind dropping the clocks- simply aesthetic or is there a practical/engineering advantage. I'm wondering whether to consider it on my build?
Is it just a question of fixing part 81 the other way up to the clocks? But leave part 66 (bracket to top yoke) as is?
 

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I am going to be running this 82 1200 TS Mirage in three different configurations. With the Jota Series 2 Fairing, with the stock TS Mirage fairing, and ....... naked without either fairing.

your bracket 66 to the top yoke is already "dropped" as compared to the equivalent bracket on my build. Your bracket 66 is a much improved version of what was used to mount the gauges to the 1200 TS mirage. When I "dropped" the gauges on my build, they wound up where the gauges on your bike will be naturally if you just use your stock parts in the stock locations. Lucky you!

to lower the gauges on my TS Mirage, I flipped the stock gauge mounting 66 equivalent to result in it dropping from the very high stock location to the lower location enjoyed by the 120 Jota. It is entirely aesthetic, when the bike is then run without a fairing it does not look quite so goofy with the gauges sticking way up high. If I could have obtained an RGA or Jota 120 part diagram 66 bracket I would have used that, it has the additional upright brace to better support the gauge package. On the 1200 TS the gauge package is only supported by the 2 posts that bolt in bracket 66 from the gauge package. If I later choose I can drop the gauges even further further by drilling larger holes in the bracket that bolts to the top yoke, removing or shortening the round spacers presently on the posts, and allowing the two posts from the gauge package to sit deeper into the bracket, but I was happy just to flip the top yoke bracket and get the same result as you already have on your bike. I may do further fine tuning once the bike is fully assembled.

the TS Mirage is arguably the very best of the 180 engines. However, its styling has resulted in it being seen by some as a bit of an ugly duckling. I even thought about retrofitting 1978/1979 12000 bodywork, especially the earlier tail piece, but then decided to leave the bike basically honest in its stock bodywork and close to stock silver colour, with as many small improvement's as I can subtly make.......

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Paul LeClair
 

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Paul LeClair said:
your bracket 66 to the top yoke is already "dropped" as compared to the equivalent bracket on my build. Your bracket 66 is a much improved version of what was used to mount the gauges to the 1200 TS mirage. When I "dropped" the gauges on my build, they wound up where the gauges on your bike will be naturally if you just use your stock parts in the stock locations. Lucky you!

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Thanks, Paul. As you may have gathered by my question, my whole bike has been apart for some months and is only just starting to go back together again, so I can't see ( or remember particularly) the relative gauge to fairing position. Actually my part 66 is the same as yours without the upright, (that diagram was just the only one I could find that was close).
The more I gather information from this forum , the more it seems to me that there were infinite combinations of which small parts were used on the various models, sort of whatever happened to be in the bin at the time!
 

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Redax Ignitech ignition install, with "Lex" trigger board, updated trigger rotor, and Redax Series 2 wiring harness. Mostly installed, just need to power the wiring harness so I can set the rotor timing. Two photos.

Paul LeClair

ps Chris, you are correct, two photos of the same bracket previously..... Stock gauge height is achieved by flipping the bracket over form the position pictured.
 

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Ppuxley said:
Thanks, Paul. As you may have gathered by my question, my whole bike has been apart for some months and is only just starting to go back together again, so I can't see ( or remember particularly) the relative gauge to fairing position. Actually my part 66 is the same as yours without the upright, (that diagram was just the only one I could find that was close).
The more I gather information from this forum , the more it seems to me that there were infinite combinations of which small parts were used on the various models, sort of whatever happened to be in the bin at the time!
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mine has been apart for two years, I am embarrassed to admit, so some of the re assembly has involved some trial and error......... Good luck on your build!

Paul LeClair
 
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mine has been apart for two years, I am embarrassed to admit, so some of the re assembly has involved some trial and error......... Good luck on your build!

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Paul if you are embarrassed about yours being apart for only a mere 2 years then how do you think others like me feel. Mine has been a wee bit longer than that... still I have now finally finished making and fitting the all new harness and everything works.. cables are on so now finally moving into the final stages I guess.

Good luck with it and making your target for the end of the month...
 
Last anual club rego inspection day Brett stole the show with his at the time secretly bought immaculate 3C. Looks like his latest will be revealed at the next annual club rego day. Always good to see another Laverda on the road
 
Hi Chris

thanks, but I already got a replacement TS mirage fairing from Wolfgang some time ago, and I painted it with all the other bodywork a few weeks ago. I am just not planning to fit it at the moment, but I also have a new replacement screen for it, brackets, etc.

Paul LeClair
 
Once I start a build I am totally absorbed by the project.  Work takes a back seat in my mind and I keep on working and reading and working. It's an obsession really.

I'll never be rich but I'm happy when I am building and that is what we work for innit ; )

joe
 
Friday evening here, April 24, 2015. I only have 6 days left to meet my self imposed deadline goal....... bloody hell! Anyway, I have the weekend ahead of me, there is still a surprising amount of assembly left to do, some involving some fettling like the hydraulic clutch cover/shifter assembly/rotating drum., etc.

Paul LeClair
 
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