Stolen bike

Andy J said:
Unfortunately, it’s seems like it’s a bit of a worldwide issue in ‘westernised’ countries. Property theft used to be considered worse than just about any other crime, justifying transportation. Perhaps there’s a connection. 😜🏃‍➡️
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What's important is not the property but the money and jobs linked with insurance.
That may change due the the amounts insurers are going to have to fork out because of climate change, but they'll likely find a way through.
Paul
 
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So, if I’ve understood correctly, this crook turns himself in and gets charged, yet no police officer asks him where the motorcycle is—or perhaps the guy simply refused to say.
You really ought to clarify this with the officer; in my experience, many do the bare minimum because they’re overwhelmed by the workload. The sheer volume of offenses they have to handle can make them lose sight of the fact that there’s a victim at the other end.
It’s surprising for a crook who turns himself in to stay tight-lipped about the stolen item.
I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was filling a specific order—especially considering how few people ride Laverdas.
As for the rest, investigators in France are so swamped that all low-value thefts and other minor offenses are simply dropped without further action.
It’s surprising to see just how much Australia resembles France.
The wonderful globalized world.
Good luck—you have my solidarity.
 
Mastroianni said:
So, if I’ve understood correctly, this crook turns himself in and gets charged, yet no police officer asks him where the motorcycle is—or perhaps the guy simply refused to say.
You really ought to clarify this with the officer; in my experience, many do the bare minimum because they’re overwhelmed by the workload. The sheer volume of offenses they have to handle can make them lose sight of the fact that there’s a victim at the other end.
It’s surprising for a crook who turns himself in to stay tight-lipped about the stolen item.
I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was filling a specific order—especially considering how few people ride Laverdas.
As for the rest, investigators in France are so swamped that all low-value thefts and other minor offenses are simply dropped without further action.
It’s surprising to see just how much Australia resembles France.
The wonderful globalized world.
Good luck—you have my solidarity.
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In France, they have also put aside complaints about children who are raped.
More cultural than too much work.

Concerning vehicles, if it isn't insured, the police don't give a damn, and if it is insured, all's well.

Paul
 
What a pathetic gang called police... The police officer should e turned in to the ... police.
I hope you can muster up some people who can go ask the "community" of such like minded as the thief, to retrieve it.
Best of luck. I really hope you get your bike back.
Kind regards,
Jacques
 
I have to wonder, if it had been a hog belonging to a 'club member', would the thief have rolled over the second the gang rocked up to his door? Vigilantism is frowned upon, but in cases like this, they get results!
 
Hi Will.

Shannons Insurance is usually pretty accommodating when it comes to owners wanting their written-off bikes back. The fact that they've put a note on your file is encouraging. It means they'll most likely keep you in the loop if the bike is found.

A couple of years ago a mate of mine was in exactly the same position as you. Shannons had fully paid out on his stolen bike, but the bike was subsequently recovered. It was a pretty rare and pristine BMW R80 GS Paris Dakar that was worth about $30k, but it had been seriously messed up by the thieves. They'd shortened the mudguards with an angle grinder, thrown away stuff like instruments, lights, indicators, etc. painted it all black (including the original red seat) and turned it into a very rough looking chook chaser, so their modifications didn't exactly add value. But the bones of the bike were still OK and it was still rideable. The "modified" bike was supposed to be auctioned off but Shannons were amenable to doing a deal with him prior to the auction so he could buy it back at an agreed price (around $4k I think). The bike has now been restored to its former glory, and his garage security much improved.

Incidentally, the bike was recovered and the thieves caught because they posted videos of themselves with the bike on Facebook. I don't think they'd qualify for membership of Mensa.
 
If we knew which police officer, you might stand a chance. The system is set up so you only deal with the one at the counter. They are not letting out any information at all.
 
Privacy, helpful as usual. Asking to speak to a senior officer can help. Go up the chain of command. Typically, there isn't much direct supervision of constables, from my experience. I am trying very hard not to recount a personal story that was intensely infuriating and only resolved when his Insector tapped him on the shoulder. That's why some Cops develop an untouchable attitude or professional deafness; they also tend to live in a Cop bubble. There is a thing that comes into play: Subjudiciary; they cannot comment on matters before the court,
 
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I guess water boarding isn't acceptable these days for the enlightened woke crowd. In N. America crime is mostly dealt with
in a revolving door policy...get arrested,charged then released with a notice to appear in court. How about REAL severe punishment
that MAY reduce crime without more bleeding hearts. My personal favorite is the FAS (fetal alcohol syndrome) excuse as it was actually
my mother who perpetrated the crime...yeah..
 
martymoose said:
If we knew which police officer, you might stand a chance. The system is set up so you only deal with the one at the counter. They are not letting out any information at all.
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Don't forget that we all have a local state member of parliament.
I would also politely speak with them about the performance of their state government police force.
Best of luck.
 
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A few here know the background to what happened when a number of Laverda motorcycles went missing, a strange tale which beggars belief in hindsight. These missing Laverda turned up, and subsequently were semi restored, bundled up as a for sale lot, just a clueless buyer needed to be found, and found he was.... all the while, the background to this unsavory chain of legal and compensated outcomes unknown, to the clueless purchaser. One day at a motorcycle outdoor show, a hitherto unkown Laverda rider inspects the clueless buyer 180 II. "Thats my motor" and he described to a T what welding had been done internal on the crankcase bearing journal.

Seller of the "job lot" standing behind the clueless buyer and previous motor owner.... clueless buyer spins around and asks the seller "did he know about this?!!!" which there was no hiding... confirmation. Nice. The former motor owner was very gracious in all manners, he had been compensated for the missing motor and was a gentleman of high regard. As for the silent knowledgeable, good folk one and all, some less so than others. Laverda history can be all that and more. j.
 
Bike recovered, everyone safe, original thief put the bike on Facebook marketplace, some damage but all good. Heros are Sean O'Sullivan from SOS suspension, and his offsider Manny. Give them a plug for any suspension work in Sydney. Also CIMAA member Mark Newton, who, being a retired copper, knew who to harass to get some action. The triple 0 call was going nowhere until mark got them moving. Big thanks.

Marty
 
Another Rocket Scientist bites the dust. Looking forward to hearing the details. Sean, an ex-bodybuilder, is someone I wouldn't push at all.
 
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Bike recovered, everyone safe, original thief put the bike on Facebook marketplace, some damage but all good. Heros are Sean O'Sullivan from SOS suspension, and his offsider Manny. Give them a plug for any suspension work in Sydney. Also CIMAA member Mark Newton, who, being a retired copper, knew who to harass to get some action. The triple 0 call was going nowhere until mark got them moving. Big thanks.

Marty
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Great news.
Paul
 
Great news - but the 'who you know' is still troubling - if poor old Joe Blow Laverda doesn't have an ex-copper contact, who knows how things might pan out.

On Faccialibro (my translation italiano) ... FB Marktplatz, FFS - there are some really smart operators out there, eh.
 
Just searched Facebook Marketplace; the pics are greyed out but still visible in the ad and obviously Will's bike.
 
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