Stud Washer Into Cam Chain Tunnel

ksoholm

ksoholm

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Well, after decades of wrenching I finally did it. While removing a nut from a stud on the RGS, the washer slid neatly into the cam chain tunnel. Apart from magnetic rods and a scope, any other strategies to consider?

Ta,

Kristian
 
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martymoose said:
Drain oil
Headers off
Remove cam chain support bracket.
This is the 2 studs, bracket only goes one way, make sure you mark which way it goes.
Washer should be easy to get, if it's not already sitting on the bracket.
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Thomas, thanks, articulating scope coming. Marty, are you talking about the cam chain adjusting bracket on the back of the cylinder block? Good idea, thanks -
 
Ok so my first idea stands🙂. I wouldn't worry about the tensioner. Most stuff seems to accumulate on the top of the bracket. RGS that had smashed a chain, all the bits where there. Dropped cam chain link clips, my record is finding 3 and a 1/4 of an oil ring.
 
martymoose said:
Ok so my first idea stands🙂. I wouldn't worry about the tensioner. Most stuff seems to accumulate on the top of the bracket. RGS that had smashed a chain, all the bits where there. Dropped cam chain link clips, my record is finding 3 and a 1/4 of an oil ring.
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Ok! Which bracket are we talking about? Is the support bracket the mount on the back of the engine for cam chain adjustment? Thanks -
 
And when you have dismounted this part you will find the washer just at this item or you touch with your fingers in the sump and you will find it…..
If not, how will it come up to ghe pistons or camshaft 😬
 
I remember a ring spanner holding a cam sprocket in position, ready for the cam chain to be fitted. It slipped, hit the roof of the garage and two of us searched the garage, without finding it inside the garage. Eventually we found it.

It landed where? Right down the cam chain tunnel. Should have taken a Lotto ticket that day.
 
You’re worrying me Marty… I removed mine once, just for a look, now I’m not sure how I put it back!
Surely it wouldn’t go back nicely if it was the wrong way round..???
 
Andy said:
You’re worrying me Marty… I removed mine once, just for a look, now I’m not sure how I put it back!
Surely it wouldn’t go back nicely if it was the wrong way round..???
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I can do no better than quote this (which I think was from you, Piet)?:
"The narrow, flush side, goes towards the alternator. Look carefully and you may find a centre punch mark on the top side of the pedestal semicircle on that side.

If you put it in the other way round, the wider offset shoulder will rub on the crank."

Or this, with the same message (and which I know was from Paul Leclair):
"Although it maybe not be immediately obvious, the curved part at the top of the cam chain support is "handed", being wider on one side than the other.

Have a careful look at it when you remove it. With an engine this old, you cannot assume whoever installed it last put it in correctly.

The narrow side, flush side, goes towards the starter side of the engine."

Craig, still with a cam chain clip lying in the sump .. or some where.
 
Finding stuff in the sump isn't uncommon, lots of shit floating laying around.

When working on an Alfa Romeo many moons ago, a 17mm open-end spanner slipped off the chain tensioner and dropped. At first it landed on the crank sprocket, lodged in the cam chain. The magnet with which I managed to get hold of it let go in the very last moment, dropping it to the bottom of the sump. The spanner was found about 8 years later, in nice, rust-free condition!

Not saying to throw un-needed stuff in the sump... but the little odds and sods that find their way down rarely do any harm.

piet
 
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