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The 2 best-shouldered rims are the proper Italian Boranis, which are being manufactured again in Italy and Morad which is a Spanish copy of the Akront rim. Central Wheel in England air mailed my Morad to Oz for a lot less than I expected. And you have Woodys in the USA
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The reason why I went that way on my rear wheel was tradition and to match the front. My rear is the biggest WM4 that make at 3.0, std is 2.5. You can go to 6 inch and bigger I think in non-WM or flat style but that academic on 3cs as it's hard enough to fit a 3.0, bigger just doesn't fit at all. I would think the flange style would be stronger as well, thicker depth of section of the rim.
 
thanks for recomendations on rims suppliers. Been too busy at work to follow up yet. Two more Court trial days this week then will get back to the bike this weekend.

packages still arrving fast and furious from all over the world. When I checked locally on having the rather peculiar original seat rebuilt and recovered I got annoyed at the price of the quote. Checking for other seat options, turned out that the original seat manufacturer in Italy still makes the seat, exactly as they did in the 50's, apparently used on enough Italian tiddlers of various brands of the 50's and early 60's there still apparently is enough demand they have been kept in production all these years. Brand new from Italy, with shipping from Italy, and duty/customs, was still less than half the quote of having the old seat redone locally. Extraordinary. Shipping from Italy was also unexpectedly a lot quicker than the stuff I am still waiting on from the UK.

With the seat shipment I also received identical reproductions of the various Gilera branded rubber bits, recreated in Italy for "museum bikes".

Photos of the new seat. Very styling.....:cool:;)
 

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Brand new from Italy, with shipping from Italy, and duty/customs, was still less than half the quote of having the old seat redone locally. Extraordinary. Shipping from Italy was also unexpectedly a lot quicker than the stuff I am still waiting on from the UK.

:cool:;)
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That's because of Christmas.
It starts in September in the UK and then there's New Year and a 2 month backlog with hangover.

Paul
 
dropped the engine case off at the specialty welder, he figures he can patch the hole in the case from what looks like a broken drive chain sometime in this 1957's engines past. Now turning my attention to sorting wheel rims and spokes
 
wound up ordering Hagon shocks in 270 mm length, non shrouded, black with chrome spring. Just sent in the order after quite a bit of going back and forth on springs and damping etc.. Only 25 mm longer than stock, a bit less than an inch longer. The only spring they had available for a shorter shock would have been way too stiff. Great customer service so far, quite impressed.

Went to see a local wire wheel builder today, measured and recorded offsets, he gave me a quick tutorial on basics, then I came home, took a bunch of photos, then took both wheels apart. I got all 72 spokes out without breaking one...... In theory at least I could probably reuse the existing spokes if I had then refinished, but given the condition of the rims I just don't want to risk reusing the old spokes.

local wheel builder says he has had great experience dealing with https://www.central-wheel.co.uk/ already recomended here earlier in this thread as well. I used the spoke measuring guide on their web site. 3 mm spokes, 4 different lengths, two different head angles, bloody hell I had no idea. I just emailed a detailed enquiry for availabilty and pricing of 72 spokes and nipples in polished stainless steel, and two WM 1 x 19 polished valanced alloy rims. If I can live with the quote I will order. If I am still whining about cost, I have found a supplier in Italy of reasonably priced Borrani copies and spokes, I would already have ordered from the Italian source but he doesn't supply stainless spokes.
 

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My son who's rebuilding a 175 Gilera Rosso extra came upon this site.
Mainly Guzzi orientated but some useful stuff common to all period Italian machines.


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thanks Paul - a couple of the generic things, like rear wheel/chain tensioner adjusters I would have happily purchased brand new, instead as I could not find them I am having them rechromed right now.

had forgotten to take the bearigns out of the rear wheel sproket/drum, which is a quick change arrangement seperate from the wheel. Two more bearings to order, a basic 6203, and a "16003 metric miniature". Learn somethign new every day. Apparently a 16003 is same as a 6003 at 35 mm od and 17 mm id, except 8 mm thick instead of 10 mm thick.

Looking again at various parts like engine cover, wheel hubs, etc after vapour blasting. They are clean, but dull and show every dent, ding, and scratches (oh so many scratches) from a long life. Fiddled a bit with light sanding with 800 grit and an initial crack at polishing the simple charging system/clutch cover. Wound up with shiny scratches.......... More thought is required. :cautious::cautious:;) Any suggestions welcome.
 

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Paul LeClair said:
thanks Paul - a couple of the generic things, like rear wheel/chain tensioner adjusters I would have happily purchased brand new, instead as I could not find them I am having them rechromed right now.

had forgotten to take the bearigns out of the rear wheel sproket/drum, which is a quick change arrangement seperate from the wheel. Two more bearings to order, a basic 6203, and a "16003 metric miniature". Learn somethign new every day. Apparently a 16003 is same as a 6003 at 35 mm od and 17 mm id, except 8 mm thick instead of 10 mm thick.

Looking again at various parts like engine cover, wheel hubs, etc after vapour blasting. They are clean, but dull and show every dent, ding, and scratches (oh so many scratches) from a long life. Fiddled a bit with light sanding with 800 grit and an initial crack at polishing the simple charging system/clutch cover. Wound up with shiny scratches.......... More thought is required. :cautious::cautious:;) Any suggestions welcome.
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More polishing required to cut deeper.

Paul
 
800 is far too fine, you need to grind/sand out the scratches first. Use 180 or 240 for starters and work your way "up". 800 is for finishing.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if a couple of battle scars remain visible.

piet
 
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you are both braver than I am. The cover in the photos is wafer thin, and only when I started lightly sanding it with 800 grit did I notice it already has a one inch + crack started in from one edge. I already have an engine case half in at the specialty welder being repaired.

I was thinking this may have been a sanding/polishing job for my 29 year old youngest son. We discussed the sanding/polishing last week, and I got him to semi agreement to the point where he did say he would "try to" come by. However, he didn't turn up today.

He has been the sole salesperson at the local Bentley and Aston Martin dealership for over a year now, and with the way new vehicles have been flying out the door there he has been less and less interested in spending time on my old projects, or for that matter even driving the 1972 Triumph Spitfire Mark IV he spent so much time with me working on and perfecting over the last several years. His head appears to have been turned to bigger better shinier way faster, there was some suggestion the other day of a used Aston Martin potentially in his near future. I don't think the old Spitfire carries the same allure any more...........:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: and dad's current filthy dirty sanding/polishing project definitely is not high on the interesting list.

To be honest I have the proper tools and equipment in storage and I used to really enjoy sanding and polishing various Laverda bits, but recent years health challenges have made me much more conscious of how I now spend my energies and on what. I am now going to check around for sanding/polishing services and rates unless my youngest son miraculously turns up yet today.
 
Would it originally have ben polished, Paul? I kinda like the sandcast look - and certainly don't mind a few battle scars on an old workhorse like yours.
 
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