What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?

Your lucky you got a date,Im still dateless but began dealing with the government this morning.
Did mine under pre 1989 bikes  ::)
now theres only hoping and praying ???
 
TC said:
Your lucky you got a date,Im still dateless but began dealing with the government this morning.
Did mine under pre 1989 bikes  ::)
now theres only hoping and praying ???
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:o Mine doesn't comply: Later model: wheels, hubs, brakes, suspension, swing-arm are the sticking points. Blind Freddy could see that. And, it doesn't carry a Engineers Cert to cover mods.
Let alone the hidden engine modifications (I could fudge that bit)
FFS what's a man to do?  :'( I don't want the bugger impounded on it's way home.
Bear with me while I squeal like a girl.

However, vehicles that have had extensive modifications performed after 1 January 1989 that significantly change the original specification and/or performance of the vehicle will not be able to be imported under the pre-1989 import option. These vehicles are considered remanufactured vehicles.
The considerations listed below are evaluated when a vehicle is assessed for eligibility as a pre-89 vehicle. The assessment is based on a combination of both the extent of any modifications to the vehicle and the effect those modifications have on the performance and design of the vehicle.
Please note that notarised statements and/or Statutory Declarations from either the buyer or seller regarding the date certain modifications took place are not sufficient to demonstrate the date without further supporting documentation.
Failure to provide sufficient information to complete a full assessment may result in assessment delays. Please see requirements below for information required.
If you are considering purchasing a modified pre-89 vehicle to import into Australia, please consider the information below and undertake the self-assessment before purchasing the vehicle.
Has the vehicle been converted from left to right hand drive?
Notes:
A left to right hand drive conversion is considered a major modification even though the function and performance of the vehicle will remain the same.
Has the body of the vehicle been significantly modified?
Notes:
Body modifications such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Chopped roofs
Rear wheel tubs that require modification to the chassis
Full body kits
Replacement of the front or rear panels with a cowl
Extension of the body for limousine use
Conversion from one vehicle type to another (e.g. sedan to coupe, coupe into a convertible, wagon to utility)
Replacement of the original body with a new/replacement body
Minor period type modifications such as flaring of guards to accommodate wider wheels are not generally considered to be significant modifications.
Has the chassis of the vehicle been significantly modified?
Notes:
Chassis modifications such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Addition of roll cages
Relocation of suspension location points for geometry changes or to allow for larger section tyres
Installation of aftermarket front or rear subframe(s) or cradle(s)
Modification of the chassis to accommodate routing of performance exhaust systems
Enlargement of transmission tunnels to accommodate non-standard transmissions
Addition of brackets for purposes such as a location for anti-roll bars and panhard rods are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original engine (or an engine that was an option in this model vehicle)?
Notes:
Engine changes and/or modifications such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Addition or upgrade of turbochargers or superchargers (where the installation is not a factory option)
Addition of nitrous oxide injection systems
Engine changes to non-standard or non-optional engines
Modified engines where the sum of modifications (internal components, induction and exhaust) would significantly increase the output of the standard installation engine
The engine type was not available before 1989
Newly manufactured (crate engines) are not generally considered to be post-1989 manufacture on the condition that the above conditions do not apply.
Does the vehicle have the original transmission (or a transmission that was optional in this model vehicle)?
Notes:
Gearbox changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Replacement of a gearbox that was not available as an option
Replacement of a gearbox type that was not available before 1989
Gearbox internal changes are not generally considered a significant modification.
Does the vehicle have the original front suspension?
Notes:
Front suspension changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Installation of aftermarket suspension systems (e.g. fabricated location members or wishbones)
Installation of a suspension system that was not standard on that model vehicle
Installation of major suspension components from a different vehicle type
Changing or modifying wheel hubs to accommodate components
Changes to springs, shock absorbers, anti-roll bars (or installation where none were originally installed) are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original steering system?
Notes:
Steering changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Conversion from a steering box type (e.g. recirculating ball, worm and peg) to rack and pinion
Changes to steering column (e.g. Addition of a collapsible steering column element) or addition of power assisted steering are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original rear suspension?
Notes:
Rear suspension changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Installation of aftermarket suspension systems (location members)
Conversion from one functional type to another (e.g. leaf springs to four or five link live axle)
Installation of a suspension system that was not standard or optional on that model vehicle
Installation of major suspension components from a different vehicle type
Changing or modifying wheel hubs to accommodate components
Changes to springs, shock absorbers, anti-roll bars (or installation where none was originally installed) are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original rear axle (or an axle that was optional in this model of vehicle)?
Notes:
Rear axles/final drives changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Aftermarket final drive axles housings
Non-standard or non-optional rear axles
Installation of a rear axle/final drive from a different vehicle type
Changes to final drive ratio or installation of new-manufacture rear axle assemblies (to original design) are not generally considered significant modifications.
Does the vehicle have the original braking system (or a braking system that was available as an option in this model vehicle)?
Notes:
Braking system changes such those listed below are considered significant modifications:
Installation of a braking system (front and/or rear brakes) that was not standard or optional on that model vehicle
Changes from drum to disc type braking
Installation of an aftermarket braking system (front and/or rear)
Dimensional increase of active braking components (disc or drum)
Installation of braking components from a different vehicle type
Changing or modifying wheel hubs to accommodate components
Installation of a brake booster/s (where none was fitted originally) or pressure limiting valves, grooved or drilled discs are not generally considered significant modifications.
 
But you're not importing a vehicle. It's already here and registered in Australia. You're just taking it out of the country and bringing it back again. Well, you could try that argument anyway. It might work. Show them the Aussie rego documentation.

If you can't get a guarantee that they'll let you bring it back into the country, it would be risky to take it overseas. I'd suggest you take another bike, or don't take a bike at all. Maybe some kind forum member will lend you a bike for the event.
 
I wonder how Steve Riley that dairy farmer from Victoria will get on bringing his HSV Holden Ute with the Japanese 4 wheel drive conversion built in Australia being raced successfully in The Dakar right now will bring that back to Australia.
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Dakar drama for Holden ute, whats a Holden ?

A post on the Facebook page of Victorian dairy farmer Steve Riley and co-driver Trevor Hanks? team, Aussie Holden Ute-DAKAR 2019, says it ?was actually touch and go? that the 6.0-litre VE SS ute (with Mitsubishi Pajero four-wheel-drive transfer case) eventually passed scrutineering.

Quote from some Victoria Dakar tragic a few know here, builds V8 Motorbikes for fun

Steve has the fastest cows in Australia though !

What were the dramas getting his ute thru scrutineering ?

Steve's a great guy - for those not in the know......he's won the Australian Safari 3 times ( more ? ) in a car and similar amount of class wins on a bike in the Safari too. He's also been mechanic / navigator in the Dakar twice, finishing both times after virtually rebuilding the whole car ( not one he built ) in 2011. He doesn't have the budget of the big guys, but if tenacity counts for anything, he'll be up there.

I'm off to China for 2 weeks for work and as horrible as the thought is, I may not be able to access the Firehose - I will suffer withdrawal if that proves to be true.
 
Chris if that highly modified road registered race car can go offshore and come back there must be a way for your bike to as well.
 
Dellortoman said:
But you're not importing a vehicle. It's already here and registered in Australia. You're just taking it out of the country and bringing it back again. Well, you could try that argument anyway. It might work. Show them the Aussie rego documentation.

If you can't get a guarantee that they'll let you bring it back into the country, it would be risky to take it overseas. I'd suggest you take another bike, or don't take a bike at all. Maybe some kind forum member will lend you a bike for the event.
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What you are saying is right Cam, here is the bullshit, mine has no plate!

Australian Plated Vehicles Option
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This arrangement is established under Section 17A(2)(a) of the Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989.
The purpose of the option
The Australian Plated Vehicles option covers road vehicles originally sourced within Australia but subsequently exported. For example, the vehicle may have accompanied the owner on an overseas holiday or tour.
The arrangement allows the vehicle to be re-imported. The arrangement only applies to Australian standard (i.e. certified) vehicles. Applicants are to provide a photo of the vehicle's identification plate.

The vehicle being re-imported is to be the same as the vehicle that was previously exported. If a vehicle has been converted into a different automotive product (such as a replica car or stretched) while overseas, the vehicle no longer qualifies under these arrangements and would have to seek import approval under another option.
 
chrisk said:
There is a race vehicle clause Vince, but mine doesn't comply with that either.
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I'm fucked.
Rang the buggers, they could not recommend a way around it, because if impounded when it came back. I would use the conversation as argument and that would get Michelle in the shit.
Suggested I do the Eligibility form again, and it leaves me with the pre-1989 rules to adhere to.
 
Sounds like a lot of bullshit CK and I don't think I'd take the risk of having to get the bike back home. I'm probably in the same boat with the Motodd though it's registered as a 1974 model so pre ADR rules.
Given the expense of shipping the bike there and back I'd be looking at buying one in Europe and if fairly original could be imported or just sold on when finished with.
How about pulling it apart and sending it back as parts?
 
Thats not good Chris, my doesn't have a plate either but mine is stock, so Im hoping to get a pass, its a lot of shit isnt it.  I think you have a right to squeal a bit :o
 
chrisk said:
What you are saying is right Cam, here is the bullshit, mine has no plate!
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Yours was made and imported and registered in Australia before plates were even thought of. You need to start talking to the Govt Department and get a letter from them giving you clearance to take the bike out of the country and bring it back. Talking about it on here will change nothing.
 
Chris, If the worst comes to the worst I'm sure we will be able to sort a bike out for you, maybe not a Laverda but I have a couple of other bikes here that could be used if push comes to shove. It doesn't matter what you are riding anyway, the roads are the same, the scenery is the same and the company is the same.
 
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