What did you do to or for or with your Laverda today?

putting the top case on a drill press and drilling right through every number or better still a mill, and cut a slot, removes all traces of any number,

I CERTAINLY DO NOT CONDONE THIS IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT OR QUESTION ABOUT WHO OWNS THE CASES

But if they are legally and legitimately your property, I see no reason why the number of a damaged beyond repair case should not be changed to the number of the ones you are then replacing them with, but in every case (sorry about the pun) you should totally destroy the old set, so that the number remains unique to the bike and no bike can ever "appear" with the same number that you originally had.
CLEM
 
CLEMTOG said:
putting the top case on a drill press and drilling right through every number or better still a mill, and cut a slot, removes all traces of any number,

I CERTAINLY DO NOT CONDONE THIS IF THERE IS ANY DOUBT OR QUESTION ABOUT WHO OWNS THE CASES

But if they are legally and legitimately your property, I see no reason why the number of a damaged beyond repair case should not be changed to the number of the ones you are then replacing them with, but in every case (sorry about the pun) you should totally destroy the old set, so that the number remains unique to the bike and no bike can ever "appear" with the same number that you originally had.
CLEM
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Engine numbers are not always as important as they are in the UK.

As I understand it, a UK motorcycle is identified solely by its engine number, making chassis swaps easy.  Many other countries, ie, Germany, use the frame as identifying component.  Engine swaps here are a non-issue, as long as same is replaced with same, the number being of no importance (unless it is on records as stolen).

Of course, erasing a number and replacing with another should be done entirely at own risk, and with own property. 

Reckon the world won't stop turning if 2 sets of cases turn up with the same number... would certainly cause a little head-scratching, but the chances having them turn up at the same place at the same time are slimmer than slim.

piet
 
Yesterday I was pissed, real pissed. Carlo and his mini indicators, and the upcoming Snowy Rally in parts of this country where the cops have no sense of humour, made me do something about putting some stealth blinkers on the back of my bike.

Purchased, modified what I had to, wired them up ..... blinking on the left, no blink on the right  ???

Checked plug at bike all good. FFF, did some Google research, and noted that LED lights are polarity sensitive. I postulated, surely Hueng in the Chinese blinker sweatshop couldn?t have put the red wire wher the black one should have been.

Reversed the wires ...... Hueng must have had a bad day!
 
sfcpiet said:
Reckon the world won't stop turning if 2 sets of cases turn up with the same number... would certainly cause a little head-scratching, but the chances having them turn up at the same place at the same time are slimmer than slim.
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I know that there are two instances of identical engine numbers being recorded already on JLO's registry
these are triple numbers, #4052 is in Brisbane, Australia and also listed as being in Germany, both owners have sent him photos of the engine stamping to confirm
can say the Brisbane bike was in my workshop on the weekend and is a matching number bike

and #7802 being an 81 Jota and a matching number bike is one of my old Jota's that we sold to SCRman as we owned too many 81 Jota's but same engine number is listed as being in Croatia as well and that owner sent JLO a photo of his engine stamping

does that mean the dude in the stamping section stuffed up a few times ?
wonder how many consecutive numbers he missed

 
redax5 said:
does that mean the dude in the stamping section stuffed up a few times ?
wonder how many consecutive numbers he missed
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Don't think QLD transport would see that as a plausible reason!  If a number is already logged in their system, you cant get another registered...
 
sweetas said:
Don't think QLD transport would see that as a plausible reason!  If a number is already logged in their system, you cant get another registered...
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Both German or Croat bike would have to be shipped to Australia, or vice versa, before the shit hit the fan.
 
redax5 said:
I know that there are two instances of identical engine numbers being recorded already on JLO's registry
these are triple numbers, #4052 is in Brisbane, Australia and also listed as being in Germany

and #7802 being an 81 Jota and a matching number bike is one of my old Jota's that we sold to SCRman as we owned too many 81 Jota's but same engine number is listed as being in Croatia
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:o Ouch, that conjours up a theory of making various bikes with same serial numbers for various markets ......... more costs = less tax, yet more sales and therefore profit.
I'm not going there  (bolt)
 
re post 1183 (Piet)
you are around the wrong way Piet, in the UK it is the chassis/frame number that identifies the bike, the engine can be swapped and the numbers changed easily on the paper side, it is also acceptable to stamp a new frame with the original number if it is provided without one, but the original frame (with that number) must be destroyed, well that's the rules, in practise????

I know of one Laverda rider who built his bike into a special frame (cant remember what sort) and he used the registration paper for the new bike, not an uncommon thing in the UK, although not permissible in law. I bought his damaged frame from him and used it for various things with lots of metal cut from it, a jig for tank fabrication was one, also with empty cases and head wplus a block of wood to replace the barrels that I didn't have, as a jig for a single carb conversion and also for a huge collector bore mod, which gave loads of power but no economy.

When the MOT records became electronic, not that long ago, this owner contacted me and asked if I still had the frame remains, which I did, he told me that his bike could not be MOT'd because there was no chassis number, so I cut out a section of headstock, containing the number and posted it to him, I have no idea what he did with it, maybe he welded that bit onto his nice new chassis? but at least it proved the frame with that number had been destroyed.
CLEM
 
I had a real shitfight getting my tipbike (the one from the leftover parts that might have gone to the tip) here in Norway when I  wanted to make it legit. The rego documents from Transport Queensland just listed engine numbers, not frame number. As the two bikes had matching numbers, but with the engines swapped, I took the racer in the van as well to the third traffic station I had to visit during the gri?elling process. The inspecting group of three officers said that I was lucky to be able to show that I did possess both bikes, otherwise it would have been no go, legitimately at any rate.
 
cleaned TOG up a bit more, but this time with WD40,polish,brake cleaner etc. and while on the ramp, changed the oil, squirted 3 in 1 down the throttle wire, lubed the chain and fitted NEW OLD STOCK FACTORY speedo cable! not moved off the ramp yet, but I can tell you that this cable is a very different piece of kit to the Venhill ones that I have fitted, feels more solid, the end float/grease stop at the instrument end is a plastic flanged sheath on the inner wire and about 20mm long, (not just a crimped on brass blob) I installed the conduit (correct name for the outer) cable onto the speedo gearbox with about six inches of inner hanging out at the instrument end, then fed the (pre-greased by me) cable down the conduit to touch the drive square in the gearbox, a gentle poke and turn found the location and it pushed in nicely, next, at the instrument end, with the finger ring pushed down, I attempted to insert the drive square, and had to turn the wheel a tad, and few times to find it, once the flange's were metal to metal, I tightened the finger ring, and all felt very good, very "located" time will tell, I could'nt get an MPH reading by turning the wheel by hand so have your eggs ready.
CLEM
 
Meanwhile I  fitted 3 Venhill speedo cables this week with no dramas whatsoever.
 
"Meanwhile I  fitted 3 Venhill speedo cables this week with no dramas whatsoever."

were any of them 1200TS or RGA ? and if so were they made inside the last six weeks, and have all three bikes been ridden and the instruments tested?

CLEM
 
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