A couple of months back I decided to get my old really really expensive Dainese Gortex Jacket taken out, for some ODD reason it had gotten really tight especially with the winter liner in. It was a very hard job to do right and cost stupid money but what the hell, its a great winter jacket. So I go in to get it and the woman tells me the Gortex liner has delaminated and in cannot be repaired and won't be waterproof any more. If I had known that I wouldn't have done the work. So after plenty of thought, I today put a long-sleeve T-shirt on and wearing the jacket I got into the shower for a test. So for a now not waterproof jacket, it passed the test fine. After 10 minutes with well more water than any storm would produce the only wet bit on the T-shirt was on the lower sleeve. Made my day, add a bit of Newwax spray and it's now back to my prefered winter jacket.