I think that I can guess who the other one was.You could have come to drink a coffee , that would have made 2 Guzzi in the week !![]()
Paul
I think that I can guess who the other one was.You could have come to drink a coffee , that would have made 2 Guzzi in the week !![]()
"I cleaned up a spare dynamo, put it on the bike and nothing."This is where my charging problem has got me.
I'm now a brother in arms with Hamish.
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I cleaned up a spare dynamo, put it on the bike and nothing.
I made sure that I was using the right technique to test the dynamo. Either DF to earth and voltmeter on D+ or bridge DF and D+ and from there, voltmeter to earth.
Nothing. The charge light stays on.
So I assume, (sic) that it's the regulator. A bastard of a job to take off. Carbs off and tissue paper down the intakes.
The old and presumably faulty part has been on there since 1990 and seen much use. I do seem to remember opening it up and cleaning the contacts.
A spare regulator is on the bench and will be fitted tomorrow.
Paul
To forget Laverda, I went plodding two hours on the Falcone (which is much in need of some tlc ) this morning.
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Thanks very much for that."I cleaned up a spare dynamo, put it on the bike and nothing."
Hi Paul, I notice you stated that you tested the Dynamo but did you try polarizing it first?
If it has been sitting for a while quite likely it will need this. I had nothing on mine when I got the Eagle and wise heads on here mentioned this.
I tried it, (only needs run for a very short term) and away it went.... Attachment would have been posted by someone else but can't remember who it was to acknowledge:-

I never mentioned swapping D+ and DF, that isn't the case. It's all good.Paul,
Your wiring loom seems to be seriously compromised! In stock form, inadvertantly swapping DF and D+ just isn't possible! On both the regulator and dynamo, one terminal has/should have a captive nut/screw and the corresponding wire terminal is cut out to allow connection. I can supply new repro dynamo/regulator pig tails should you require one.
piet
I couldn't see the charge light on the bike because of my Smartphone case in front of it. I noticed that the battery was flat at our lodgings in the evening. If not running with the lights on, once running, the only drain on the battery is the coils. It'll run all day on the battery. It's a pity that Laverda wanting to seem technically forward looking didn't see fit to fit a kick start. They were so confident in their starting system that they fitted a car battery.What indication of this issue first appeared on the trip: dead battery, and the bike stopped proceeding. You did fantastically well getting by with emergency fixes. The reason I asked AGAIN is that with a cheap-as-chips dash-mounted volt meter display, not charging immediately gets noticed well before the bike fully stops running, or in my case, explodes a battery from overcharging. Don't you love those deeply buried snapped wires?
20/20 hind-sightProblem fixed.
I repeated what I did last night, a wire between DF dynamo and DF regulator. It worked.
So I checked continuity on the DF wire, it was cut.
So I made up a new loom from the dynamo to the regulator. The DF wire on the old loom was cut where it had rubbed on the back of the crankcase where it goes up towards the regulator.
Just two wires but it involves dropping the dynamo, again, partially dropping the regulator. In all, 5 hours works on a very hot day, grovelling on the floor, my 3C rebuild is on the bike lift.
On the road, I couldn't test continuity, so I did 2000 km with a bike not charging, riding without lights and charging the bike every night.
I obviously made a mess of testing the dynamo and I should have tested for continuity from the moment I got home. Still, I now have a spare refurbished dynamo.
Tomorrow, I'll clean the machine which is as it was after two weeks touring in mixed weather.
Off towards the sea on Friday.
For Hamish, the 530 O ring chain has holes in the inner plates. It's either a DID or an AFAM.
Paul
On top of two layers of heat shrink, I passed the wires through a piece of surgical drain tube where they bend up towards the regulator and are liable to chaff against the crankcase.I have replaced those dynamo wires three times over the mere 50 years on my SF. I replace them on any motor I rebuild (not so often these days) as they are invariably really stiff and the sheathing generally cracked here and there and also really hard.
As is often the case, a problem that takes quite a bit of fault finding before getting fixed ends up with quite a bit more on the bike freshened up as a side benefit, and one learns more and more along the way. Good that you finally found the fault Paul.
Which turned out to be a 1973 SFC works racer with a 1974 SFC spec engine in a SF crankcase.This problem reminded me of my friend Loic whose 74 SFC stopped firing. It was quite some time before he found that the wires to the points were shorting where they pass inside the crankcase.
Paul
The bike from Dunkirk or the bike from Paris ?Which turned out to be a 1973 SFC works racer with a 1974 SFC spec engine in a SF crankcase.
Marnix
Maybe, but in the future, the lesson is: do a complete diagnosis before attempting a cure.20/20 hind-sight
That dynamo needed a tidy up, I suspect it would have failed shortly anyway, for exactly the reasons you first diagnosed
I put heat shrink on mine.Sort of like