Wheel bearing removal - Bush Mechanic style

stevepm2011

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I thought this tip might help someone sooner or later:
After a couple of frustrating hours trying to extract my 1200 TS wheelbearings by conventional means, and buggering my favourite Rawlbolt extractor, I was forced to resort to a combination of violence and low cunning. (Having grown up in the bush, I have a lot of experience of both.)

Step 1:
remove the rubber seal from the outside of the offending bearing, wipe away as much grease as possible. This prevents a really bad smell.
Step 2:
find your oxy acetylene torch, goggles, brazing rods and flux
Step 3:
find a washer that has an OD about the same as the diameter of the inner race of the wheelbearing, and the smallest possible hole in the middle. Any old steel washer will do.
Step 4:
rough up the outer face of the wheelbearing inner race a bit: an air grinder or Dremel tool or similar with a grindstone is great. Sandpaper will probably work OK, with a bit of effort.
Step 5:
braze the washer to the outer face of the wheebearing. This is easier if you get some of the brazing rod to melt and flow on the washer, and on the face of the wheelbearing prior to mating them. (same as tinning things prior to soldering them together)
Step 6: flip the wheel over, insert a drift (bit of steel bar, 3/8 drive extension or similar) to rest on the inside of the washer you have brazed on, and tap the bearing out. As the brazing has already preheated the housing in the wheel, it doesn't need much force.
Step 7: flip the wheel back over, carefully drive the opposing bearing out.
Job Done, takes 10 minutes, cost a few pence!
Warnings:
be careful with the heat, you don't want to melt the wheel hub or set fire to your shed...
be very careful with the remains of the other seal on the bearing. Some seal materials produce aggressive compounds when burnt. Wear gloves.
if married, don't do this in the house, your wife won't like it :o
don't try and re-use the bearing !! :D

regards to all

 

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Easier to fix the washer with a MIG or stick welder, less heat, less messy and quicker!

stevepm2011 said:
Step 6: flip the wheel over, insert a drift (bit of steel bar, 3/8 drive extension or similar) to rest on the inside of the washer you have brazed on, and tap the bearing out.

Anybody whacks on my 3/8" Snap-on extension, I'll bloody whack him!! :D

piet
 
Way too much work. Just remove one on the brake discs and gently use the torch on the area of the wheel where the disc mounted. At about 250 degrees F the bearings will fall out. This is way below the temp where you will damage the paint.
 
Piet,

G'day, mate.
I have been using my Gedore extensions to drift stuff out for years decades. Just grind the burrs off occasionally. Buy decent quality tools and they can stand the odd whack. Nothing says you can't use a polyurethane hammer. Shouldn't buy cheap extensions, though :D
Using my Mitutoyo vernier caliper as an adjustable spanner hasn't enjoyed the same success, though... :'(

1200TS, I tried the heat method; didn't work. Like the rawlbolt method, it only works if the bearings aren't well and truly seized in.

However, Frank is right: brilliant, I should have thought of it.
Run a bead of stick weld around the inside of the inner race, let it cool. Inner race should fall out. Repeat with outer race. Quebec 1, Germany 0. Not sure if it's faster, though, and need to watch out for spatter.

and finally, motorcycle shops around here don't do anything for a tenner...

 
All these methods are far too technical I normally just reach under the bench and pull out my electrical discharge machine and spark errode the suckers out :D

                                        Dave
 
Have seen (not done myself yet) road-side exchange of a wheel bearing with a hammer and a punch. just push the inner tube a bit aside and gently hammer the punch around the bearings outer ring at the inner side, making sure you do not damage the seat... a bit of heat does not harm, but at road-side...

 
stevepm2011 said:
and finally, motorcycle shops around here don't do anything for a tenner...

Local shop removed my swinging arm bearings and placed the new ones in for a tenner. I also went there to buy some ignition lead for my Morini. Guy told me to see the mechanic and he'd cut some off for free.

Maybe I'm lucky? Especially as this is in Yorkshire.....

Mick.
 
MickeyMoto said:
Local shop removed my swinging arm bearings and placed the new ones in for a tenner. I also went there to buy some ignition lead for my Morini. Guy told me to see the mechanic and he'd cut some off for free.

Maybe I'm lucky? Especially as this is in Yorkshire.....

Mick.

You're very, very, very lucky. Cherish that shop.

We used to have a good local shop but the old boy retired and the current workshop foreman won't do sod all for anyone. Won't even fit parts you've bought from their spares counter unless you booked it in for the work when you ordered the bits - and there's a minimum charge of an hours labour (+ VAT) for anything.

The parts man is still a real gem and seems to have taken it personally that we don't shop there anymore.
 
Off topic, but that is how this forum works....

I'll never understand the shops that think everything has a price on a 'menu'. Do they not realise that a few pence worth of cable means an MOT and other spares and clothing down the line?

The guy down my local shop always gets my custom and judging by the bikes always queueing up on a Saturday morning for MOTs others too. This in turn keeps the local cafe going.... :)

I buy little bits from him and larger items. A true gent.

Mick.
 
yeah - have kind of that shop around here, too. Although I have never seen the owner smiling or even laughing, he is always gentle and reasonable in price. During a tyre change, he recognized a bearing had given up or would shortly. He called me and asked if he should exchange the bearing. I said: "better both, but would you mind me bringing you the bearing, as I have them already laying around?" As expected, this was no problem and he charged me 10? per bearing for removal and re-installation on top of the tyre change.

guess where I buy the next tyres...  ;)
 
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