Which begs the question, which bike for a lap around oz?

martymoose

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Kick start xl honda is out of the question.

Light, nimble, electric start, no electronics to go wrong, easy adjustment of valves. Good luggage ability.

Christiane did her lap on her rgs. 

Pirelli do a scorpion tyre in 18 inches

Can't go past an SF2?
 
Royal Enfield diesel,

ah yes Christianne, one of my two most favourite  Laverda ladies on the planet! very glad you reminded me to think of her, with at all times  the greatest of respect for Steve, and no, I am not going to say who the other one is!

CLEM
 
If I was forced too and it would take that, something easy to put on and take off the trailer behind the luxury motorhome. I knew a few who left on Dirtbike singles but never made it back without an engine rebuild. All said, never a single again. The Hondas held too little oil and were very uncomfortable at speed in the big between town legs. Those that did the stupid stay awake record idiots must have no nerve endings in their arses. Here is another ride report I have been following, much less Adventuring in the over 50 class.
Good on them for giving it a go, make up your own mind about there sensibilities. Judge not unless ye be judged. My aching arse
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I like the look of the scrambler in the earlier post, but i need a standard size fuel tank, bash plate sump guard, modern water proof luggage, probably some extra fuel capacity.  Higher bars would be good, some sort of flyscreen.  The SF2 engine rebuild is well underway, reckon I've got 12 months to organise this bike, winter is the time to tour the top end of Oz. 
 
Suzuki DR 650! All depends what you hope to achieve; if you want to look around and smell the roses the Suzuki with an Acerbis tank would be my choice. If you want to sprint from town to town as quick as possible, well what's the point?
Wouldn't go near one of those BMW GS thingies, too much to go wrong.
Did do the Perth to Adelaide trip on a Yam 225, one of the most enjoyable long trips I've ever done.
 
You don't need more than a bog standard @1982 BMW R100RT.....

I had a very capable Vstrom1000 that would easily be up to the task, mt current Bonnie T100 865cc would likewise cope perfectly (but less refined). No need to create stress taking either my CBXz1000 or Lav 1000 3CL.

Overall I'd take a the R100RT and save myself a fortune.
 
Might have to refine what your plans are; if staying on sealed roads, any reliable street bike would do but if venturing off the tar a large trail bike is the way to go.
Would steer clear of any shaft drive bike, if it stuffs up you are stuck, chain drives are easy to repair and parts are readily available, plus ratios are easy to change if required.
Think the rule of thumb should be KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid. 
 
I think you should be asking Nick Marty, having ridden across Africa on an XR 600 he might have some thoughts?
 
A girlfriend and I did it way back in the 70's, two up on a Kawasaki Z1 with all our luggage in home-made panniers and luggage rack. Probably not the ideal bike, but I was in my 20's, indestructible and too stupid to know better back then. I suppose a Beemer would have been a better choice, as would separate bikes for me and the lady friend, but the Kawasaki was what I had at the time and she didn't ride. Being so overloaded it was a handful on the bulldust road sections (Port Hedland to Broome was 600 km of dirt, loose sand, bulldust and huge mud bog-holes in those days). We went clockwise around. Bike ran flawlessly until the frame broke below the headstock. Musta been the rough Queensland roads from the NT border to Townsville. Never seen so many massive bumps and potholes before or since. Probably all nice smooth highway now. Got the frame welded up in Mackay and continued on down the east coast.

If I were to tackle it again I'd take something a bit more comfortable than a Z1. Highway 1 is sealed all the way now, so there's no need for one of those big chook chasers. A good road bike would be the go, and weight isn't such an issue when on the move. As long as it's not too heavy to pick up when it falls over (and it will fall over). I reckon I'd choose a bike that's fixable in the middle of nowhere. For me, that would probably rule out anything with a computer and massively complex wiring. I'd rather not fork out big handfuls of money on a truckload of diagnostic gear and possibly a spare ECU. Carbies are old school but simple. A Laverda RGS might be comfortable enough for long days in the saddle (never ridden one so I dunno). Or maybe an airhead BMW or a Guzzi.

Actually. If I were to head off tomorrow, I'd be tempted to take my Kwak Z1300 outfit. It has a pretty much bulletproof engine and can carry loads of gear. There's plenty of room in the sidecar for tools, spare parts, fuel cans, water, and if that's not enough it can also tow a trailer. It won't fall over, and has a big plush seat that's quite comfortable to sit on for hours on end. While it does have fuel injection and an ECU, it's pretty crude and basic. You can actually open up the ECU and inspect/repair the printed circuit board (been in there and done that before). I also know where I can lay my hands on a spare ECU for peanuts. Only disadvantage of the old Kwak is that it's very thirsty on fuel.
 
You've answered your own question, Marty! The SF2! Lee and I and a mate did Melbourne-Darwin-Melbourne with various intervals and stages, some solo, some together ... on RT2 360 Yamahas. Wouldn't do that again though.

I've done the full lap anticlockwise on the SF1 when it was loads of dirt and it was sensational. Panniers made from plastic jerry cans. Virtually no mechanicals, easy to fix, strong as buggery - chuck an Air Hawk saddle pad on one and you're in comfort city. Plenty fast enough, very economical, decent fuel range and really really nice in the dirt.

Failing that I'd go a BMW650 single, chain drive. Very nice and easy to handle.
 
Yogi said:
I?d go either the Suzuki or - preferably- the Guzzi route..


Yogi

The late bike journalist Kel Wearne - he of that famous shot jumping a CBX1000 over a raised railway crossing on the road between (I think) Piangil and Wentworth - reckoned the best bike he had ridden for long distance work was a Moto Guzzi T3.  850 donk that gave 55-60mpg depending on how hard you were going, big tank, comfortable wide seat....  Just stop when you needed fuel and have a dhurry, an then press on.
My brother Marty (series 1 Jota, RGS, MV Tourismo Veloce Lusso 800, K100, 850 Le Mans, 750S3, KTM 690 Dakar replica) rope the 750 S3 up the centre when there was lots of dirt with road/dirt knobblies on it, with nary a problem.

For me, Suzuki GS1000S is the best long-distance bike I have ever owned - for the engine and wide, comfortable seat, and good fuel economy, but I?d have to fit wire wheels.....  :-)  40 years ago I did Adelaide to Kirribilli in 11 and a quarter hours with nary a bit of back pain or discomfort, apart from the 35 degree C temp across the Hay Plain.  Tried to do quicker on the way back and had the front Avon Roadrunner delaminate at about 180kmh, which gave me the biggest tank-snapper I?ve ever had and bits of rubber sections flying everywhere.
 
Well, after doing 10,000ks last year through Europe, and the a quick run Brisbane to Melbourne return at Christmas, I'd have no hesitation taking my GSX1400 around Australia.
 

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Interesting topic!
If venturing off the sealed roads one of the most important considerations would be, can I pick it up after a tumble?
Heard a funny story that may only be an urban myth.
A bunch of blokes intended to ride the Pan American Highway from Alaska to Patagonia on their BMW GS', they shipped them to Anchorage and when ready to leave, one of the bike would't start and the whole 'C Bus' electronics system shut down. Could only be repaired by a qualified BM mechanic in an accredited BM workshop and the closest one was in California.
Depends on how you look at life; if you had to buy an 'adventure bike', would you have a BMW GS or a Royal Enfield Himalaya? I know which one I would choose.
 
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