wanted - moto giro bike

FNQ1000 said:
Hi Paul
Participating in a Moto Giro sounds like a lot of fun. I’ll suggest a Moto Guzzi Lodola 235 - comfortable, reliable and should be ‘relatively’ affordable compared to many other period motorcycles. No idea of the availability of them in North America. Wasn’t there a Guzzi in your garage at some point?

1957 Moto Guzzi Lodola 235 GT – Fully restored !!! - Italian Vintage Motors

www.italianvintagemotors.com www.italianvintagemotors.com

Cheers
Jason
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Yikes.
There's a French expression concerning people disconnected from reality. Il se touche. He's touching himself.
€4500 for a Lodola! That's the price of a nice Nuovo Falcone.

Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
Yikes.
There's a French expression concerning people disconnected from reality. Il se touche. He's touching himself.
€4500 for a Lodola! That's the price of a nice Nuovo Falcone.

Paul
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I agree it's ridiculously steep and yes I remember the days when you could buy three for 300.000 Lire but then I don't know how the parts situation is and how easy they are to restore. The paint job alone is 4 figures nowadays.... I wouldn't really call them "iconic" either, but I always thought they were pretty. I do have an original spare parts catalogue I could contribute to the effort....
 
Laverda1000.de said:
I agree it's ridiculously steep and yes I remember the days when you could buy three for 300.000 Lire but then I don't know how the parts situation is and how easy they are to restore. The paint job alone is 4 figures nowadays.... I wouldn't really call them "iconic" either, but I always thought they were pretty. I do have an original spare parts catalogue I could contribute to the effort....
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Parts are readily available.
Paint job is a lot less when you have friends in the business.

As for iconic. Long word for short thinking.

Paul
 
Laverda1000.de said:
Alternative economy would be having one million followers on your points ignition youtube channel
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Alternative economy is friends doing paint and rebores for me and me taking their appendix out.

You tube channels are the modern form of a new ruling class exploiting the masses.

Paul
 
sfcpiet said:
You do appendices at home? On the kitchen table, alongside Rons Breganzie engine? :LOL:

piet
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Some years back at a Burt Munro meeting . I met a very well-known Maori tattoo artist. He was running a fleet of J.A.P. powered bikes in everything from speedway through longtrack and beach races to the roadraces. He approached me to put together a JAP V twin he was having problems with.
I said it would have to wait till I'd had my gall bladder out.
He came back with a deal involving an Auckland based surgeon he'd been decorating - who owed him quite a lot of money - and the use of his tattoo studio. Which he described as full stainless steel and sterile as f***.
Attractive as it sounded, I backed quietly away.....
 
GregT said:
Some years back at a Burt Munro meeting . I met a very well-known Maori tattoo artist. He was running a fleet of J.A.P. powered bikes in everything from speedway through longtrack and beach races to the roadraces. He approached me to put together a JAP V twin he was having problems with.
I said it would have to wait till I'd had my gall bladder out.
He came back with a deal involving an Auckland based surgeon he'd been decorating - who owed him quite a lot of money - and the use of his tattoo studio. Which he described as full stainless steel and sterile as f***.
Attractive as it sounded, I backed quietly away.....
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Ha ha, I presume he was going to use his needle skills and be the stand in anaesthetist:D:D
Love it!!
 
lost out on the Bultaco Metralla 250, sold out from under me for $12,000 Canadian earlier to day, mind you my offer was $10,000 Canadian. Maybe I am just too cheap.

Jason above proposed a Moto Guzzi Lodola GT 235. The listing he posted looks EXACTLY like the Lodola I was bidding on through eBay about 3 or 4 weeks ago in the eastern U.S. and didn't "win". Has me a bit paranoid as to whether it is the same bike and possible scam, or not. Also, the $1,250 US shipping costs quoted is a little discouraging, although the bike seems reasonably priced if accurately represented.

the Honda Benly 125 local to me with the seized motor has already been fully prepared and previously run in the local Moto Giro, where it seized while running flat out on one of the longer straights. What is has going for it is that it is local to me, has decent YSS shocks, has apparently been fully gone through, and the asking price of $3,000 Canadian includes a bunch of spares. What is has going against it is that it seized, raising issues of how well it was previously prepared, and $3,000 seems to me to be a lot of money for an old seized 125 Honda. I am coming to the conclusion though that I may be a bit out of touch on 60's tiddler pricing, and there do not seem to be many listed for sale.

I now have a line on a local Moto Morini 125, and also on a local Ducati 250, and am following both of those up right now. Below are two photos of the 1963(?) Honda Benly 125 four stroke twin I am still considering. The huge ugly rear fender has been heavily trimmed, the huge ugly front fender removed, the stock heavy seat replaced with a home made fiberglass base unit, and the stock exhaust system replaced with a home made system. In the photos the bike is missing its foot controls/rear sets, which the seller has swiped and put on another bike. I talked to Wolfgang and replacement decent quality rear sets are about $225

Paul LeClair
 

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I'm still trying to track down a couple of bikes in the Fraser Valley ....... hopefully they are above water still. One fellow is in Mexico but I know he will get back to me eventually. The other fellow usually needs about 10 messages before he will respond (he's Scottish but not sure if that has anything to do with it). He also has or had some Nortons so was going to see if anything for Beachemin.

Jim
 
You may get lucky with the Honda. If it' had been rebored prior to the event you'd suspect the bore clearance was too tight - easy enough to do if it's not cooled between machining and measuring. Is it free now ?
But I don't like the replacement exhaust. Running wide open - probably for the first time and without doing any plug chops - it could easily have done a piston
The centrifugal oil filter has been known to catch people out on those things too. Major crank work if it has.

The last one of those I worked on a friend of my business partner had brought in from Aussie and I got it sorted and going for him.
We reckoned it had been dug out of the red center of Oz. Deeply covered in red dirt. Customs had pressure washed it, owner had too, i washed it twice before I'd work on it.
 
Those Benlys aren't worth a lot really, all except for the CB92 which commands silly prices. I toured the north of Scotland on one once, bloody hard work. The C92 and C95 are ok for going to the shops.
 
Paul Marx said:
Alternative economy is friends doing paint and rebores for me and me taking their appendix out.

You tube channels are the modern form of a new ruling class exploiting the masses.

Paul
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I might be wrong, but haven't you said that health care in France is free ? So would you be just doing your job, by giving a free operation? or were in private medial care.....? So perhaps, you in fact would be taking them for a walk along the garden path if you were not in private practice? And then truely getting something for nothing eg, paint jobs and re bores ?
:unsure::unsure::rolleyes: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

this is said tongue in cheek, and in good humour
 
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sideshow said:
I might be wrong, but haven't you said that health care in France is free ? So would you be just doing your job, by giving a free operation? or were in private medial care.....? So perhaps, you in fact would be taking them for a walk along the garden path if you were not in private practice? And then truely getting something for nothing eg, paint jobs and re bores ?
:unsure::unsure::rolleyes: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

this is said tongue in cheek, and in good humour
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My old father, born in 1914, saw quite a bit of the world and of humanity go by. One of his arguments for orientating me towards medicine was that when things got bad, I could exchange my professional skills against food.
So you're not so far off.

In France, the state health service is to all intents and purposes free but so is private practice since in nearly all cases, the patient is reimbursed by social security. In fact, less and less money actually changes hands since social security very often pays the clinic or the health worker directly, the patient not forking out a penny.
The patient is free to choose his doctor(s) and hospital or clinic.

Social security is paid for by the produce of work, money being contributed by the workers and businesses as it should be in a developed human society.
Unlike in some countries, private health insurance in France is something that only concerns veterinary practice.

Paul
 
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I needed a neck scan. I went through the public system, got sick of waiting and paid for it myself, with a rebate from Private Health cover.

2 years later from the hospital, I got a letter saying there was a spot available in 3 months....... I’m glad I didn’t get straight in, and be told I had only had 2 years to live.
 
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