How to silence your Jota pipes?

chrisk said:
Who in their right mind would want to quieten the worlds sweetest sounding motor?
::) It?s like asking a 36-24-34 woman to wear a potato sack to a ball.
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Ah, the potato sack ain't so bad Chris - a sack comes off quicker than layers of fancy clothes. At our age, there is no time to waste... :)
 
laverda180 said:
This winter I have to quieten my Jota silencers, stainless copies of unknown brand. Will experiment with tube inserts picking up on the advice found here, but also interested in buying new silencers, hopefully TüV approved (part numbered?). Any recommendations? My local TüV turned a blind eye to the current pipes giving me an approval in 15 minutes, but it’s clear from reactions when on the road that sooner or later I will be stopped and then as Piet says the police will simply refer to the 84/89 dB stated in papers and probably lack of a DGM number on silencers. The more I ride the more pressure they will get from the public, you can feel the annoyance as you ride even with a muted throttle. Still using under 5000 rpm as I bed in the motor. Guess the alternative would be a new 600cc approx Aprilia or something electric!!!! Still riding, but not the same.
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This will become more of an issue if the noise cameras that are being trialed in some parts of the UK get widespread approval .
Won`t make any difference which type of silencer or whatever it has stamped on it.....if your vehicle registers above a certain dB level as you pass the camera you will be photographed and a fine / points penalty will arrive in the post...

If you want to find out more join MAG or BMF... ( or your national equivalent ) ....

My prediction is that when all new internal combustion engine motorcycle production ceases around 2027 ( bear in mind manufacturers will want to off load unsold stock before any ban actually comes into force three or four years later ) , and every new bike is electric , all existing petrol vehicles will be gradually phased out by not making them eligible for continued use on the road anymore ( impossible to road tax ) , due to noise / emissions ....
 
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rocketonarail said:
This will become more of an issue if the noise cameras that are being trialed in some parts of the UK get widespread approval .
Won`t make any difference which type of silencer or whatever it has stamped on it.....if your vehicle registers above a certain dB level as you pass the camera you will be photographed and a fine / points penalty will arrive in the post...

If you want to find out more join MAG or BMF... ( or your national equivalent ) ....

My prediction is that when all new internal combustion engine motorcycle production ceases around 2027 ( bear in mind manufacturers will want to off load unsold stock before any ban actually comes into force three or four years later ) , and every new bike is electric , all existing petrol vehicles will be gradually phased out by not making them eligible for continued use on the road anymore ( impossible to road tax ) , due to noise / emissions ....
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Where are they going to get all the electricity from? Or is it Shanks's pony for the plebs?
 
pf1 said:
Where are they going to get all the electricity from? Or is it Shanks's pony for the plebs?
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Dunno...some say it will be no problem , maybe in the UK`s case import more from Northern France , they have plenty of nuclear power stations scattered around the place I believe , keeping London going at times of high demand .
Our local authorities say they are committed to provide hundreds of new charging points , probably operated by various suppliers who you have to register with , who will then gradually increase the price of a typical charge to the level of that of filling with petrol ( already starting to happen ) .... maybe supply of electricity in that manner can be maintained .
The real problem with supply is when everyone who is able to plugs their car into their domestic supply at home overnight , when demand is ( or used to be) at it`s lowest...
I wonder how the government is going to recoup the loss of revenue from Fuel Duty on petrol , you can`t really increase the cost of the domestic supply without the risk of freezing a few thousand poor old souls to death each winter can you ?
 
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rocketonarail said:
Dunno...some say it will be no problem , maybe in the UK`s case import more from Northern France , they have plenty of nuclear power stations scattered around the place I believe , keeping London going at times of high demand .
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Nope, 50% of France's nuclear power stations are off grid for a long time due to ageing. We're importing electricity for the first time in decades and maybe facing cuts this winter. We even restarted coal fired power stations.

Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
Nope, 50% of France's nuclear power stations are off grid for a long time due to ageing. We're importing electricity for the first time in decades and maybe facing cuts this winter. We even restarted coal fired power stations.

Paul
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Well that`s no good ...doesn`t help us much does it ?
Get it sorted out and quickly...:(
 
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Some of the French nuclear stations had to be put on part load due to low water levels in the rivers on which they are built, kind of a Catch 22 situation especially for the new stations that are in planning. Nuclear doesn’t work well without cooling, coal doesn’t work without steam, so seems we need more wind, solar and hmm gas if demand is to be met. How long till someone reaches for the puncture repair kit?
 
In the UK nuclear power stations tend to be built on the coast or next to large estuaries , easier to capture water , especially with rising sea levels due to global warming .
At a decommissioned site close to me "they" are talking about a new nuclear fusion plant , which creates energy by bashing atoms together instead of splitting them ( stop me if I`m getting too technical here ) ...rather like the Sun apparently...so all our energy problems should be solved in thirty years or so.....

When I fitted Lafranconi mufflers to the Mirage I lost 5 mpg...
 
rocketonarail said:
In the UK nuclear power stations tend to be built on the coast or next to large estuaries , easier to capture water , especially with rising sea levels due to global warming .
At a decommissioned site close to me "they" are talking about a new nuclear fusion plant , which creates energy by bashing atoms together instead of splitting them ( stop me if I`m getting too technical here ) ...rather like the Sun apparently...so all our energy problems should be solved in thirty years or so.....

When I fitted Lafranconi mufflers to the Mirage I lost 5 mpg...
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That's fusion. Not commercially viable before a long time.
Fukushima was built next to a large source of water.

Paul
 
Laverdalothar said:
why do I not believe this... :LOL: ;)
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No really, I am all for quiet bikes. I may have written before, my best mate has a house on the Elbuferstrasse near Hitzacker. He has a bunch of bikes himself, a Katana and the R60/5 mentioned elsewhere. If you are at his house on a nice weekend you become very tempted to string a steel wire across the road. And I certainly don't like the din of stainless Jota cans.
 
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