SOLD!!! One of the last... 750 S Formula "Modell 2000"

Laverdalothar

Laverdalothar

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This is the bike the importer Stein-Dinse used for the press to promote the bike in 2000 (number plate in the papers matches the one on the report in a bike magazine, the Stein-Dinse Sticker is still there and Stein-Dinse is the first owner in the papers). It is one of the last roughly 50 bikes built in that configuration.

Note the extremely rare 5-spoke rims and some other components unique to that model (Crank type 3 f.e., which seems to be an improved version)!!

It is fairly original with some needed modifications:
-Crank needle bearings were fixed before I bought it by OCT, shifting was adjusted and works faultlessly!
-fork oil was changed roughly 5.000km ago
-Starter has 4 contact plate and has been overhault by OCT
-starter gearing has been changed/optimized
-starter wires are the thicker ones
-chip has been optimized for smoother running in midrange (original chip still available)
-regulator is soldered in instead of the connector that overheats
-tank cap is alloy for easier opening (original still here)
-right mirror was replaced with original item from OCT due to the mirror glas losing the rear coating and not beeing shiny anymore.

With the bike comes the rear footrest holders and rear seat pad in fitting color (blue), both originally blistered, never mounted. The bike is else in original condition with new tires (2024, done roughly 400km). Bike has meanwhile done roughly 17.000km, only failiour so far was a dead battery. starts well cold and warm with full battery. Some other parts available.

If you have questions and are seriously interested, please PM me here or send me a mail to LaverdaSFC at web dot de. Thanks for watching.

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Unfortunately the type 3 crank isn’t much better than the original. However, if I correctly understand what you have written, part of the issue with the crank, the bearing cases spinning, has been ‘fixed’ by OCT by drilling and pinning the bearings. is that what you mean? And it’s still a great looking bike regardless of whether it’s had all the gremlins banished.
 
Hello again.I can feel that everything has come to a standstill. I am helping my friend sell his RGS, which is in perfect condition, there has not been a single inquiry, years ago people called, just to ask about the motorcycle, but now there is complete radio silence, here in Denmark everything has come to a standstill, this applies to motorcycles, classic cars, sailboats etc.
 
I had inquiries for the Formula, but either did they want a show-room queen or compared a non-worked over bike's price with mine that has the engine issues fixed.

The bike costs me 100€/year on insurance and another 80 or so on TÜV/MOT. Nothing to worry about if it stands another year or two... ;-)

I rather give it away to my wifes brother as a christmas present than to sell it cheap to someone who just wants a bargain or does not appreciate it.

BTW: Had contact with Umberto from 3CMoto and he is working on a solution for the cam chains... ;)
 
I suggest you do as you suggest Lothar and give it away as the value is only likely to go one way. At least it might get used a bit more. And just because it’s had its engine worked on doesn’t really have any effect on the value. I can think of scores of Laverdas that have had thousands lavished on engine work etc but still don’t sell for anywhere near what the original bike and the work has cost the owner.
 
Andy J said:
I suggest you do as you suggest Lothar and give it away as the value is only likely to go one way. At least it might get used a bit more. And just because it’s had its engine worked on doesn’t really have any effect on the value. I can think of scores of Laverdas that have had thousands lavished on engine work etc but still don’t sell for anywhere near what the original bike and the work has cost the owner.
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Well, yes and no.
I splashed out €75 000 to refurbish the engine of my Ferrari 250 TdF which I'd bought for € 2 000 000 in 2018.
I've just sold it for € 7 000 000.

So, you never get your money back on old metal apart from some very special contraptions.

You only get enjoyment for your money unless you don't use your contraption in which case, tough luck.

Paul
 
Andy J said:
I suggest you do as you suggest Lothar and give it away as the value is only likely to go one way. At least it might get used a bit more. And just because it’s had its engine worked on doesn’t really have any effect on the value. I can think of scores of Laverdas that have had thousands lavished on engine work etc but still don’t sell for anywhere near what the original bike and the work has cost the owner.
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That is not completley true on the Zane's, Andy. If you buy a 750 S Formula for - say - 6.000€ that has not had the engine reworked, you HAVE to invest another 3-4.000€ to avoid it going up like a handgranade within the next few thousands of kilometers. They all blow up if you don't fix the engine preventively.

So - comparing an unfixed ones price with one that has had the surgery done already is nonsense. It simply ignors the fact that another 4.000€ is waiting to be spend.

That is different to the Breganzes, wich - regular service assumed - outlast mosts riders kilometers they spend on it.

It is not about getting your money back, it is about what will be the overall cost of buying a Formula and actually riding it.

I personally would rather spend 2.000€ more on a bike that had the fix done properly by a known source (OCT) than buying one and having to invest 4.000€ to get the same fix done. You not? ;)
 
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Paul Marx said:
Well, yes and no.
I splashed out €75 000 to refurbish the engine of my Ferrari 250 TdF which I'd bought for € 2 000 000 in 2018.
I've just sold it for € 7 000 000.

So, you never get your money back on old metal apart from some very special contraptions.

You only get enjoyment for your money unless you don't use your contraption in which case, tough luck.

Paul
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as if Zanes were the Ferraris in the Motorcycle world😁
 
You wanted a great rider so good on you, Loathar, for doing the work. Also great to hear about any cam chain fixes. Hope you and Paul get cashed up and buy something just as interesting so we can read about that.
 
Laverdalothar said:
That is not completley true on the Zane's, Andy. If you buy a 750 S Formula for - say - 6.000€ that has not had the engine reworked, you HAVE to invest another 3-4.000€ to avoid it going up like a handgranade within the next few thousands of kilometers. They all blow up if you don't fix the engine preventively.

So - comparing an unfixed ones price with one that has had the surgery done already is nonsense. It simply ignors the fact that another 4.000€ is waiting to be spend.

That is different to the Breganzes, wich - regular service assumed - outlast mosts riders kilometers they spend on it.

It is not about getting your money back, it is about what will be the overall cost of buying a Formula and actually riding it.

I personally would rather spend 2.000€ more on a bike that had the fix done properly by a known source (OCT) than buying one and having to invest 4.000€ to get the same fix done. You not? ;)
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AFAIK Lothar there are quite a few Zanes knocking about that have been 'fixed' by either OCT or by Van Dijk, Terry Sage has one, and the sale prices haven't been much different to 'unfixed' ones.
 
doesn't speak for either the sales abilities of the sellers or the smartness of the buyers... ;)

From the roughly 10 conversations I had, I can defenitely say that people were willing to spend more on a fixed bike. The problem is more that most don't understand the differences between the 2000 and before models and that sometime the 1999er models are sold very cheap (like 3.500€)
 
Laverdalothar said:
doesn't speak for either the sales abilities of the sellers or the smartness of the buyers... ;)

From the roughly 10 conversations I had, I can defenitely say that people were willing to spend more on a fixed bike. The problem is more that most don't understand the differences between the 2000 and before models and that sometime the 1999er models are sold very cheap (like 3.500€)
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Sales are not a question of willing but a matter of money. Hence, the old adage " put your money where your mouth is ".
Paul
 
it's a question of both. I have the money to buy me a 750 SFC. I am just not willing to spend it. Only if both comes together, there is a sales... assumed the seller is willing to sell on that price and the buyer to buy on it.
 
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Andy J said:
AFAIK Lothar there are quite a few Zanes knocking about that have been 'fixed' by either OCT or by Van Dijk, Terry Sage has one, and the sale prices haven't been much different to 'unfixed' ones.
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you are correct Andy, and with the upgraded starter gears from 3C fitted it starts like a dream. Only issue i have now is it will cut out at lights or junctions every now and then. Not a massive issue just a bit annoying. I have no intension of selling, and was out on it last Sunday to Willersey. i couldn't stop long but it was worth it just ride in the beautiful sunshine we had.
 
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