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Hi Red

have a look a the Mo Button, you hide it inside a handle bar. Takes all the switching functions from starter button, headlight, horn, turn signals, and brake light activation, and results in only one tiny 22 gauge data wire for the switching functions from the front of the bike to the M Unit.
thanks Paul, just bought a mo.Button

they certainly have different names for their products
 
I’d prefer if a cool looking build wasn’t half obscured with greenery. If it’s a featured bike, perhaps show the features? And yes, I do prefer the second photo.
 
I have done the Motogaget thing on my 750SF1 - original wiring was hacked about and I never liked all the connectors being squashed under the tank. Had to run some extra relays to get the headlights working since the ignition switch connects them back to +ve not GND. I did not go M-button but used black cat5 to run it all back to the unit. The thing I really struggled with was the Bluetooth connection - it would work intermittently and never figured out why - I'm an IT specialist and it totally defeated me (and burnt a lot of my time).
 
I have done the Motogaget thing on my 750SF1 - original wiring was hacked about and I never liked all the connectors being squashed under the tank. Had to run some extra relays to get the headlights working since the ignition switch connects them back to +ve not GND. I did not go M-button but used black cat5 to run it all back to the unit. The thing I really struggled with was the Bluetooth connection - it would work intermittently and never figured out why - I'm an IT specialist and it totally defeated me (and burnt a lot of my time).
Bluetooth?
Does the bike stop if the satellite breaks down?
Please stop adding extra sources of potential trouble on what is a simple machine.
Paul
 
Bluetooth?
Does the bike stop if the satellite breaks down?
Please stop adding extra sources of potential trouble on what is a simple machine.
Paul
Bluetooth has nothing to do with a satellite, just works device to device
 
Bluetooth has nothing to do with a satellite, just works device to device
I know, trying to make a point about complicating things whereas it should be a matter of simplifying.
Bluetooth and relays and M gadgets for a thing that only needs a few wires.
Paul
 
I know, trying to make a point about complicating things whereas it should be a matter of simplifying.
Bluetooth and relays and M gadgets for a thing that only needs a few wires.
Paul
the whole point of the Motogadget kit is to reduce the wiring to a few wires
and when you are building a custom bike as I am that is a huge advantage

and I am not a fan of points
 
That rd looks to straight for the sfq.

Rego sticker lost and found 🤓
Wildwood Rd, very straight - had been rolling at 160+ - my birthday last year - battery completely dead, bike stranded, waiting for the towie! I've still got the old rego label inside the fairing screen! Gotta look into where the newie is.
 
I know, trying to make a point about complicating things whereas it should be a matter of simplifying.
Bluetooth and relays and M gadgets for a thing that only needs a few wires.
Paul
Paul, relays are a common way to remove problems due to excessive current in switches ... there are MANY tales on here of ignition switches causing intermittent loss of electrical contact, simply because ALL the bike's 12V power supply goes through it.
 
Paul, relays are a common way to remove problems due to excessive current in switches ... there are MANY tales on here of ignition switches causing intermittent loss of electrical contact, simply because ALL the bike's 12V power supply goes through it.
Mine have had broken solder on SF2 and 500. The Bosch switch in the headlight has other problems. If far from home, just twist a couple of wires together, that'll get you home, or even better, use a safety pin through the two wires. Looks less like you've stolen it.
Relays are a common way of having problems with relays. Keep it simple.
Paul
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I had the wiring of my Jota completely re-done by Michael Gawlik (R.I.P) from then OCT in 2000. He incorporated a box that does similar things like the M-Unit and has a central plug to connect everything. It works ever since. I have had only two failiors, one was the built-in blinker relais (simply took a spare one, took the according cable off the box and put the new relais into the loom), the other was: the plug unplugged itself... Easy to recognize, as nothing works then anymore. Fixed it with a little bit of Silikon as a glue at the side of the plug, never failed ever since.

The bike has done only 35.000km in 25 years or so with that installation, but has seen all kind of weather, including snow and ice, heavy rain and temperatures up to 50°C in the sun. it worked faultlessly except for the above two things. Most reliable circuit of any Laverda I came accross.

I get your point, Paul, about not complicating things etc., and yes, a 750 Loom is even easier to trace faults and fix them. However, if you remove the potential points that need fixing, that is actually the best thing to do from my point of view... The main points for poor working electrics is simply age and service. Age as contacts corrode over time and built resistance, service for things that need adjustment or plugs that need to be pulled once in a while to make sure contact surfaces are clean again etc. The only point on not having to work on old electrics is to replace it with something new that does not need your attention.

And in addition, you can trace a fault with the M-Unit via your smartphone... It shows you exactly which circuit causes trouble etc. It has self-healing fuses, which do not require you to take some with you or get stranded on the road etc. etc.

I understand though, that youfeel more comfortable with the traditional technology. Worked for decades, easy to fix, I get that. I just don't want to fix things on the road side... :sneaky:
 
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Hi all

I have not been posting much recently as I have been working on a number of non Laverda's. My three Laverda's are all completed and running very well. Have not seen any project Laverda's come up for sale anywhere near me for some years now.......

my last couple of builds have been

- a full cafe racer custom of a 1982 Honda CX 500, full aluminum body work with cafe fairing similar to an SFC 750, Suzuki GSXR 1000 front end, a carb conversion, ignition conversion, and a MotoGadget M Unit Blue with various other MotoGadget bits, and a MAD exhaust, etc.

- a full cafe racer custom of a 1978 Kawasaki KZ 750 twin, aluminum bodywork, carb conversion. Its party trick is a single shock conversion using the entire back end off a later Ninja. It is finished except for the bodywork being out for high end custom paint right now, due to health issues I am no longer permitted to do my own painting, very frustrating.

- currently on my lift is a 1978 Honda CB 750 F single cam, Keihin CR Special carb rack, custom built Hindle stainless steel 4 into 1, Suzuki GSXR front end with Cognito Moto triple clamps, Cognito Motor wheels front and rear, etc. etc., and full custom cafe racer aluminum body work. On this build, the SFC like front fairing does not have a bucket headlight in it. The headlight is being mounted in front of the fairing on extended brackets, sort of like some of the Laverda race bikes of the past.

In this build I am using almost every product MotoGadget sells. The issue with this Honda build is that with no headlight bucket inside the fairing, I am struggling with concealing all the MotoGadget wiring connections at the front of the steering head....... On this build I am using an M Unit Blue together with a Mo Button. The Mo Button is going inside one of the Tomaselli adjustable clip ons, and there will only be a single thin data cable back to the M Unit by the tiny AntIgravity lithium battery, but there is a bunch of resulting wiring connections in front of the triple tree for horn, turn signals, start and kill buttons, the digital dash and the various additional warning/indication lights, the ground wires, the headlight wiring, etc..

As I do not have a headlight bucket inside the fairing to hide the various necessary wiring connections, I have been hunting around for a wiring box to hide everything inside, to be contained within the fairing and better yet right at the triple tree. Everything I am finding for a potential wiring hiding box is butt ugly......

anyone have any suggestions?

and if anyone is going to do MotoGadget stuff on a Laverda, I am happy to help. It has been a significant learning curve.......

Paul LeClair
Hi Paul,

Sounds like a great project! My 1200TS is undergoing a big makeover into an Endurance style.I’m using the Motogadget M.unit blue as well. Just like your project it will have headlights in front of the fairing, so no chance to hide the connectors in there.

I placed the M.unit on the side of the frame between the fuel tank. Just enough clearance for the wires to avoid touching the tank. I made brackets for the holders of the Deutsch connectors. These six are all going to the from of the bike. Each bundle of wires is for 1 clip-on, dashboard, blinkers, headlights and ignition. This is for easy removal without cutting things.

The seat will have 1 separate connection as well for easy removal. But still measuring things and trying to hide all cables as much as possible.

I’m not using a Mo button, I keep it a little more simple with the Motoscope mini, blinkers and M.unit. Only need to figure out the speed sensor via the ‘AUX2 input’ to monitor the speed on the app. But looks like just check for the right setting and thats all.

Herman
 

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Very interesting, Hermann! I had thought about putting it there but shied off, fearing, it get's to much heat there. No
I thought about that, but there will be enough space and airflow under the tank. Even in the summer time I never felt an enormous amount of hot air from the engine at a stop. If, but don’t think needed, I have a solution for that. A small duct/funnel can direct cool air. I have seen many builds with the electrical equipment above the engine and carburetor.

Herman
 
I thought about that, but there will be enough space and airflow under the tank. Even in the summer time I never felt an enormous amount of hot air from the engine at a stop. If, but don’t think needed, I have a solution for that. A small duct/funnel can direct cool air. I have seen many builds with the electrical equipment above the engine and carburetor.

Herman
finally, we have posts back on subject as opposed to green discussions
 
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