A Tale of Two Titties

Nadia said:
Nope they are not remotely exciting and I can say that with a minuscule amount of authority.

The upshot of my smoking engine: sadly the last service, which was done by a local service centre team, must not have realised that the engine had to be warm to top off the oil and filled her with 4lts of oil 🙈 the hot oil, as I understand, has apparently been seeping out burning bits and bobs. Apparently that and the wiring that was damaged has now been repaired.
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Not so good Nadia, the lack of knowledge at local shop, at least you have a point of reference for the issues. Your description prior did have elements of overfilled oil change, hence the question of what was performed or changed since last time the engine ran correctly.

For what it is worth have seen over filled Laverda motors as well, can inflict variable degrees of motor damage, most though can be rectified, ie no bent metal parts as in the case of fuel hydraulic lock. Refer to the famous "Bent Conrod Award" for Laverda NSW club, wonder if that trophy is in circulation? A tribute to the famous/infamous Mr Paul Trillo, much missed, in no small measure.

Trust the bill is not breathtaking, for the repairs, can add up. j.
 
I overfilled my first ever Laverda triple when topping up the oil for the first time. The old problem of not holding the dipstick vertical in the angled filler hole. It didn't do any damage other than spewing oil out of the crankcase breather all over the back tyre. It was during a spirited ride with some mates when I became aware that there was a problem with the rear tyre, but I thought it was probably low tyre pressure. I pulled into a service station to check the pressure and found oil all over the place. Spent about half an hour with bits of rag cleaning it all up.
 
Andy said:
I’ve burned a lot of “worn out” power pole crossarms, all strine hardwood. After a few decades on a pole it can’t be cut, drilled, split or broken, but it sure burns hot.

Although it makes the sheep smell a bit while they’re drying out in the lounge
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🧐 Drying out the outside or inside of the sheep?
 
It's easily done, especially with early triples if you read the manual and just add 3litre after draining, guess how I know. As the primary usually still holds approx 500ml and doesn't drain with the bottom case bolt you will end up very high on the dipstick. Better to add 2.5litre and check the dip and slowly continue till it shows correct on yep the dipstick. I once blew out a countershaft seal on an XT500 by overfilling it.
 
It can be confusing. I had a CBX1000 owner who asked if he should stop the engine to check the oil, as the manual said to run the engine for a few minutes before checking it. Nadia should get compensated for the mistake from the local shop.
 
Tippie said:
Nadia should get compensated for the mistake from the local shop.
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Yeah, good luck with that. They're unlikely to admit to buggering it up.

I don't trust the spanner guys in most motorcycle shops. I do all my own maintenance unless it's something I don't have the facilities to do, like crank rebuilding, cylinder boring, cylinder head refurbishing, etc. But if I do need to send work to someone else, there's only one motorcycle mechanic in southern Tasmania that I trust. I've known him for many years and he's very knowledgeable and conscientious. I'm not saying all the others are idiots. I just don't know them.
 
Running a small motorcycle business in these days of social media, very difficult. All your fuckups are public. Having said that, looking up oil capacity for a bike you haven't worked on before is very easy these days. Not like 20 years ago.
 
Dellortoman said:
Yeah, good luck with that. They're unlikely to admit to buggering it up.

I don't trust the spanner guys in most motorcycle shops. I do all my own maintenance unless it's something I don't have the facilities to do, like crank rebuilding, cylinder boring, cylinder head refurbishing, etc. But if I do need to send work to someone else, there's only one motorcycle mechanic in southern Tasmania that I trust. I've known him for many years and he's very knowledgeable and conscientious. I'm not saying all the others are idiots. I just don't know them.
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Same here. I stopped going to the dealers in the 80s with my first Laverda, a 3CL when I'd start tuning it after they'd done it.

Paul
 
Tippie said:
It can be confusing. I had a CBX1000 owner who asked if he should stop the engine to check the oil, as the manual said to run the engine for a few minutes before checking it.
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That is absolutely breathtaking....how would anyone in their right mind think you could check the oil level whilst it is still circulating...as for anyone who thinks you can blindly fill a wet sump engine with 4 litres or whatever of oil just because that`s what the book says it will hold...as Dellortoman says , there are some shop mechanics who will blindly follow this route just because that is what is says in the book and these people are best avoided .

Personally I never take any notice of capacity figures whether it is for oil and filter change , oil change only or whatever and just keep topping up till it reaches the high level mark , start and run the engine for a few minutes , stop and recheck the level which by now will have dropped down to the lower level mark , then top up again to just below the high level mark . I really couldn`t care less how many litres have gone in .
How could something so straightforward cause so many problems ?

Now I`ve calmed down a bit , the mention of "following this route "earlier makes me wonder why Americans , and some New Zealanders also I`ve noticed have started to mis - pronounce the word route ( root - as in road way ) as rout ( rowt - to disperse an unruly crowd )....why are they doing this ? After all you don`t say " I get my kicks on rowt 66 " do you.....
 
rocketonarail said:
That is absolutely breathtaking....how would anyone in their right mind think you could check the oil level whilst it is still circulating...as for anyone who thinks you can blindly fill a wet sump engine with 4 litres or whatever of oil just because that`s what the book says it will hold...as Dellortoman says , there are some shop mechanics who will blindly follow this route just because that is what is says in the book and these people are best avoided .

Personally I never take any notice of capacity figures whether it is for oil and filter change , oil change only or whatever and just keep topping up till it reaches the high level mark , start and run the engine for a few minutes , stop and recheck the level which by now will have dropped down to the lower level mark , then top up again to just below the high level mark . I really couldn`t care less how many litres have gone in .
How could something so straightforward cause so many problems ?

Now I`ve calmed down a bit , the mention of "following this route "earlier makes me wonder why Americans , and some New Zealanders also I`ve noticed have started to mis - pronounce the word route ( root - as in road way ) as rout ( rowt - to disperse an unruly crowd )....why are they doing this ? After all you don`t say " I get my kicks on rowt 66 " do you.....
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She root?
 
rocketonarail said:
That is absolutely breathtaking....how would anyone in their right mind think you could check the oil level whilst it is still circulating...as for anyone who thinks you can blindly fill a wet sump engine with 4 litres or whatever of oil just because that`s what the book says it will hold...as Dellortoman says , there are some shop mechanics who will blindly follow this route just because that is what is says in the book and these people are best avoided .

Personally I never take any notice of capacity figures whether it is for oil and filter change , oil change only or whatever and just keep topping up till it reaches the high level mark , start and run the engine for a few minutes , stop and recheck the level which by now will have dropped down to the lower level mark , then top up again to just below the high level mark . I really couldn`t care less how many litres have gone in .
How could something so straightforward cause so many problems ?

Now I`ve calmed down a bit , the mention of "following this route "earlier makes me wonder why Americans , and some New Zealanders also I`ve noticed have started to mis - pronounce the word route ( root - as in road way ) as rout ( rowt - to disperse an unruly crowd )....why are they doing this ? After all you don`t say " I get my kicks on rowt 66 " do you...?
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I was at the pub on the weekend and overheard Dave tell his mate Joe,
"I'm gonna take a coupla weeks off and head up to that remote beach we were talkin' about"
Joe asks "Great spot, which route are you going to take?"
Dave has a moment then say "you know, the girlfriend wants to come but I thought I'd take the trouble and strife for a bitova treat, after all she's stood by me for the last 30 years"
(Sorry, I'll leave now...)
 
... And Aprilia Milles (v2). Run for 10 miles, switch off, hold bike at vertical and check level immediately.

It all depends on wet/dry sump, or somewhere in between!
 
10 miles ? sure that`s not a mis-print and it should be ten minutes...although even that seems a bit on the long side...

All this has just reminded me about a story regarding a bike journo who turned up at the Laverda importers in the early `eighties here in the UK ( not Slaters by now so it must have been Three Cross ) , to take a 120 degree Jota out for a test run .
He was told on his arrival that the bike had just been serviced that morning and if he went through to the workshop it should be ready now for him to take out .
He entered the workshop and although there was no one there he saw the Jota was waiting for him as promised so he took it out and set off on his ride .
About a few minutes into the ride he began to realise something was terribly wrong and returned carefully to the importers workshop .
It seems the mechanic working on the bike had been half way through an oil change , decided it was time for his lunch break , and left the bike unattended with no oil in it without informing anyone...

When it was realised what had happened the bike was then filled with oil , run to see if it was ok ( ! ) , and then , as far as the journo knew , was returned to the showroom...

TEL 473X was a Three Cross 120 Jota demonstrator...anyone got it ?
 
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paulincayman said:
Myself married at 23 way too young.divorced at 26.
Currently in 33 yr relstionship unmarried. As stated earlier the commitment is coming home everynight, ( albeit occasionaly via the local pub ) Now I'm in my 60s we have decided we should leagalize the situation, mainly for issues of probate, passports and health care. But also because it feels right.
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Sharing an update..
Now Mr and Mrs , official ,36yrs and counting.although Jen kept her full name.
 
Congratulations, been married 22 years and would marry her again. Never found the one for me until I was in my thirties and she was married to someone else. Six years later she was divorced after she found out her husband had another woman on the side and we got married.
 
Congratulations
My misses and me 26 years still unmarried. Would marry her in a heartbeat, one day.
26 years she has never pissed in my ear or complained about anything.
We lived in a shed for 12 years, shitting in a hole in the ground and showering with a bucket with hot water coming from an open fire. Did the laundry by hand, Never winged!!
Once I got my house to a liveable state life was much more civilised.
All the effort I went into building our house she couldn't understand why when all I had to do was build a bathroom next to the shed.
She is truly happy in her heart and needs no more than the basic things in life. And always smiling.
 
motoddrob said:
Congratulations
My misses and me 26 years still unmarried. Would marry her in a heartbeat, one day.
26 years she has never pissed in my ear or complained about anything.
We lived in a shed for 12 years, shitting in a hole in the ground and showering with a bucket with hot water coming from an open fire. Did the laundry by hand, Never winged!!
Once I got my house to a liveable state life was much more civilised.
All the effort I went into building our house she couldn't understand why when all I had to do was build a bathroom next to the shed.
She is truly happy in her heart and needs no more than the basic things in life. And always smiling.
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Yeah, mate, she's a keeper, a sweetheart. You definitely got the best half of the deal; You are an OK bloke, but Jeez. Nah, mate, it's all good. See you soon, I hope.
 
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