Building my Jota
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I did the 2CV oil cooler thing. Cracked at the pipe/body junction very quickly.
I think Clem had the same issue. Just saying.
I think Clem had the same issue. Just saying.
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So I got the Dyneema cover sorted over the wiring, it looks pretty subtle coming out the end of the clip on.
The Dyneema is pretty good, we use it with yachts for sheets and halyards, but as a cover its great, it is pretty good with chafe and a bit of heat, it is strong, and doesnt cut easily. They use Dyneema everywhere these days, surgical thread, body armour, they also line car body panels with it too to protect from bullets and shrapnel as well... its even in the weave of a lot of riding jeans.
The Tommaselli's are nicely made, and good quality, so I dont have any issues with drilling the hole for the wires to go through, but the casting mark on the end where the hand grip tube goes in, kept me awake last night... I showed Kat, what I had done with a photo, and the casting marks made it look like a bloody crack, I couldn't believe I had damaged them drilling, on checking this morning, its just trick photography from shadows and light ... phew!
You can see how it could be seen as a crack on the photo against the tank... just shadow. In any case it will look nice and subtle when all is wired up
The Dyneema is pretty good, we use it with yachts for sheets and halyards, but as a cover its great, it is pretty good with chafe and a bit of heat, it is strong, and doesnt cut easily. They use Dyneema everywhere these days, surgical thread, body armour, they also line car body panels with it too to protect from bullets and shrapnel as well... its even in the weave of a lot of riding jeans.
The Tommaselli's are nicely made, and good quality, so I dont have any issues with drilling the hole for the wires to go through, but the casting mark on the end where the hand grip tube goes in, kept me awake last night... I showed Kat, what I had done with a photo, and the casting marks made it look like a bloody crack, I couldn't believe I had damaged them drilling, on checking this morning, its just trick photography from shadows and light ... phew!
You can see how it could be seen as a crack on the photo against the tank... just shadow. In any case it will look nice and subtle when all is wired up
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So glad the Kat-Scan never picked up a crack!
Looks good, a little touch with a countersink bit would have been even better
Looks good, a little touch with a countersink bit would have been even better
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chrisk said:So glad the Kat-Scan never picked up a crack!
Looks good, a little touch with a countersink bit would have been even better
I am working on making a little top hat that comes through the inside of the clip on, It will in theory go inside the dyneema, and hold it in place so it doesnt pull through Dodgy hand sketch attached.
Im going to try printing the top hat this arvo and see how I go, if that idea doesnt work then I will countersink the hole.
But I agree, it needs a little something there, Im hoping the top hat tube will fill that space, and stop the dyneema cover creeping out
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Right... so I drew up my little electrical funnel and printed a version one print in PLA which is what I print all my test prints in , just to see that it will work. It came out good, but I will change the material to a semi flexible TPU filament to print the next ones. This is just to give an idea of my crap drawing above.
I gave it a textured finish to help it grip in the dyneema and to act as a bit of a bung to stay tight in the clip on.
I think it will work pretty good.
You will have to use your imagination with the last photo.... this will be the set up inside the tube, rather than outside as it is here, it was just the check to see that it was the right dimensions. And you would never see how it works inside the tube... so get your imagination out and pretend thats on the inside of the tube, funnelling my cables through ......
I gave it a textured finish to help it grip in the dyneema and to act as a bit of a bung to stay tight in the clip on.
I think it will work pretty good.
You will have to use your imagination with the last photo.... this will be the set up inside the tube, rather than outside as it is here, it was just the check to see that it was the right dimensions. And you would never see how it works inside the tube... so get your imagination out and pretend thats on the inside of the tube, funnelling my cables through ......
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So bunch has gone on this week, work has been intense, and I have done something to my back, that makes my abs spasm and feel like some one has a spanish windless around my mid section, x rays and tests prove its a muscle/ trapped nerve thing.
In the mean time I got the front wheel centered, both my calliper adaptors printed in ABS show I had the right design/ dimensions, so they and my front and rear axles ( I know spindle is the correct word perhaps, but I use axle) are now going to be machined up in grade 5 TI in Italy, arrival time to be confirmed because of covid.... tomorrow I will email the .stl files off , so they can be started.
I was slowed down on the whole front wheel thing by thinking I had a warped disc carrier, but it turns out one of the three new unopened brake discs that I had was warped. I found this out when I put on, a new to me set of disc carriers, and saw I had run out on the disc again, when spinning the front wheel. Luckily for me half way through the build I decided to go with an underslung brake calliper on the rear, and as I had three new discs, the one that was no longer being used on the rear has now been moved up front. The guy I bought the discs from is happily replacing the bent one, he wasn't to know, I mean who opens a disc before they send it off....
I went off on a tangent mid week and put my new set of Keihin 33mm CRS carbs on my Norton domi racer, you can see it in the background of the photo below. I printed the carb manifolds in a special TPC filament, that is being used for that job these days, its so good, you don't need gaskets with this material as its self sealing. What a difference they made. There was a bit of faffing around getting BSW cap screws the right length from the UK, and a BSP 1/4 ' 90 degree fuel elbow in , as I had to get rid of the fuel tap due to where the carbs sat, but it all came together.. tangent finished.
Today was stripping everything off the Jota frame to go away for stickering up and clear coating, and starting to get the frame ready for the engine. The engine arrives tomorrow to my house, after a quick transit, it cleared customs in Barcelona on Friday, and went onto the ferry Saturday to Palma.
Tomorrow afternoon I will get the rear wheel on, and have a rolling chassis, and the frame protection on. Hopefully by the 25th, my back thing will be over, so I can put the engine in. Then I can get onto all the finishing of the wiring while I wait for the exhaust to turn up.
I probably shouldn't be doing all the things I have done this week with the pain I'm in, I have pretty colloquial antipodean language on me most of the time and the muscle spasm/ cramp nerve thing has helped me attain new highs with a bad case of tourette's from my back ! At leat the kids think its funny and aren't worried, I suspect they think if I stop swearing something will really be up.I find it hard to stop moving, so the bike will keep progressing, and the technical inspection which should have been the 23rd but due to the covid situation here , it has been postponed until the 28th needs to be reached, otherwise I'm in the shit a bit with getting the bike registered.
In the mean time I got the front wheel centered, both my calliper adaptors printed in ABS show I had the right design/ dimensions, so they and my front and rear axles ( I know spindle is the correct word perhaps, but I use axle) are now going to be machined up in grade 5 TI in Italy, arrival time to be confirmed because of covid.... tomorrow I will email the .stl files off , so they can be started.
I was slowed down on the whole front wheel thing by thinking I had a warped disc carrier, but it turns out one of the three new unopened brake discs that I had was warped. I found this out when I put on, a new to me set of disc carriers, and saw I had run out on the disc again, when spinning the front wheel. Luckily for me half way through the build I decided to go with an underslung brake calliper on the rear, and as I had three new discs, the one that was no longer being used on the rear has now been moved up front. The guy I bought the discs from is happily replacing the bent one, he wasn't to know, I mean who opens a disc before they send it off....
I went off on a tangent mid week and put my new set of Keihin 33mm CRS carbs on my Norton domi racer, you can see it in the background of the photo below. I printed the carb manifolds in a special TPC filament, that is being used for that job these days, its so good, you don't need gaskets with this material as its self sealing. What a difference they made. There was a bit of faffing around getting BSW cap screws the right length from the UK, and a BSP 1/4 ' 90 degree fuel elbow in , as I had to get rid of the fuel tap due to where the carbs sat, but it all came together.. tangent finished.
Today was stripping everything off the Jota frame to go away for stickering up and clear coating, and starting to get the frame ready for the engine. The engine arrives tomorrow to my house, after a quick transit, it cleared customs in Barcelona on Friday, and went onto the ferry Saturday to Palma.
Tomorrow afternoon I will get the rear wheel on, and have a rolling chassis, and the frame protection on. Hopefully by the 25th, my back thing will be over, so I can put the engine in. Then I can get onto all the finishing of the wiring while I wait for the exhaust to turn up.
I probably shouldn't be doing all the things I have done this week with the pain I'm in, I have pretty colloquial antipodean language on me most of the time and the muscle spasm/ cramp nerve thing has helped me attain new highs with a bad case of tourette's from my back ! At leat the kids think its funny and aren't worried, I suspect they think if I stop swearing something will really be up.I find it hard to stop moving, so the bike will keep progressing, and the technical inspection which should have been the 23rd but due to the covid situation here , it has been postponed until the 28th needs to be reached, otherwise I'm in the shit a bit with getting the bike registered.
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Cool nanas, Todd! I don't envy you the back pain, but I do envy you finding time to work on the spesh. The SFQ is languishing in the shed, newly coated exhaust sitting in a box beside it, nothing, absolutely nothing, has been done to the project in 3-4 weeks. Xmas and Jan is just not a time to hide myself away playing with my toys. Depressing, but once again, the NY's res - we're onto year 3-peat now - is going to be 'get the SFQ' on the road THIS YEAR (2021)! And I actually think I just may succeed in 21.
Great to see your beast coming together - fingers crossed you make that rego deadline.
Keep the foul language coming - makes me feel better about the stuff I spout alone in the shed sometimes
Q
Great to see your beast coming together - fingers crossed you make that rego deadline.
Keep the foul language coming - makes me feel better about the stuff I spout alone in the shed sometimes
Q
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Piranha Brother 2 said:Cool nanas, Todd! I don't envy you the back pain, but I do envy you finding time to work on the spesh. The SFQ is languishing in the shed, newly coated exhaust sitting in a box beside it, nothing, absolutely nothing, has been done to the project in 3-4 weeks. Xmas and Jan is just not a time to hide myself away playing with my toys. Depressing, but once again, the NY's res - we're onto year 3-peat now - is going to be 'get the SFQ' on the road THIS YEAR (2021)! And I actually think I just may succeed in 21.
Great to see your beast coming together - fingers crossed you make that rego deadline.
Keep the foul language coming - makes me feel better about the stuff I spout alone in the shed sometimes
Q
Hi Mate, thanks for the message. Im looking forward to see the exhaust now they are ceramic coated.
Kat is pushing to get the bike done too, as she knows I will always put everyone else in the house first over me, so I have a bit of a mandate on this one to get the bike finished. So Im running with it.... that said, the first job yesterday was unblocking our pipe from the house to the septic tanks.... fortunately the volcano that came out of a 50 meter long pipe didnt get on anyone, and we all said a collective fuuuuuuuck in amazement that a 200mm OD pipe could carry so much when backed up.
The kids are used to colourful language, I wanted them growing up thinking swearing wasnt special, like some parents hide the word fart, penis or vagina amongst other words..... theres nothing special there, just an everyday word... consequently I dont have kids running their mouths of at words they think are so special that they need to giggle when they hear them. I keep my fancy language learnt from studying at university, for fancy pant people that need to have that reassurance of fancy language
try steal some time mate for the sfq, its good for the soul if nothing less
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I'll have two days when I bring the kids back from the beach on the 30th - then take one or both back down on the 1st. Not much, but I'll take it. the other prob is the heat in the shed - uninsulated corro roof iron and no lining in the walls - when it's 38 outside it's 38 (or more??!!) inside. You get sweat dripping into your work >
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Quite a few years ago, a workmate gave me a lift home from work. His wife had come to pick him up and she had their 4-year old daughter in the car. A little way down the road, a dog ran out in front of the car and the guys wife had to slam the brakes on to avoid hitting it. The little girl stuck her head out of the window and yelled at the dog "Get off the fucking road you stupid cunt!"
Her parents were mortified with embarrassment but I nearly pissed myself laughing.
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Christmas is early
not so much going on last night, but if you want share what its like to open a box from Red....
Photo 1) My engine box travelled well... no damage from the trip there or back, perhaps over kill, but I will get years of use out of it
Photo 2) the Jota engine and a box of goodies
Photo 3) a bit closer up
Photo 4) the box of goodies open, the rear sprocket has already found its way onto the rear wheel.
Thanks again Red.
Now I wonder where all that bloody ebay jewllery could be.........
not so much going on last night, but if you want share what its like to open a box from Red....
Photo 1) My engine box travelled well... no damage from the trip there or back, perhaps over kill, but I will get years of use out of it
Photo 2) the Jota engine and a box of goodies
Photo 3) a bit closer up
Photo 4) the box of goodies open, the rear sprocket has already found its way onto the rear wheel.
Thanks again Red.
Now I wonder where all that bloody ebay jewllery could be.........
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sideshow said:
I reckon the only use it'll get will be as a bench to put stuff on. Hopefully your engine won't see the inside of it again. That Redax built engine should be good for many thousands of km.
I built a good solid plywood box when I sent an engine to Red for a rebuild. For the last several years since it came back, my mini bar fridge has been sitting on top if it. Saves having to bend down to get a drink.
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Dellortoman said:I reckon the only use it'll get will be as a bench to put stuff on. Hopefully your engine won't see the inside of it again. That Redax built engine should be good for many thousands of km.
I built a good solid plywood box when I sent an engine to Red for a rebuild. For the last several years since it came back, my mini bar fridge has been sitting on top if it. Saves having to bend down to get a drink.
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And saves others looking elsewhere when you bend over to get a drink.
And saves others looking elsewhere when you bend over to get a drink.
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A bit behind schedule , but today was a big day in the shed..... It was a bit like the castle where
Darryl Kerrigan Says: ?Oh Steve, could you move the Camira? I need to get the Torana out so I can get to the Commodore.?
Steve Kerrigan: ?I?ll have to get the keys to the Cortina if I?m gonna move that Camira.?
Go the Castle.... for those in the know!..... ahh Bonnie doon
So a few bikes got moved around, one off the lift, so the Jota could finally move on.... then my obsessive compulsive disorder kicked in about cleaning, so had to clean a bit, that interspersed with playing swing ball with bored kids, pumping up 3 little girls bicycle tires so they could ride their bikes etc , I finally got the frame of the Jota off my temporarily felt covered welding table, it will be good to get that back, and both wheels on and on the lift . Then I started protecting the frame ready for the engine to go into.... like all toys, I had to put the tank and fairing on albeit crooked and loose, so I could see how the Jota will look finally on wheels... I know you all have them and have assembled loads of bikes, but this is the furtherest I have ventured with a build like this before, so ts quite exciting. Fuck me if the bike doesn't look good, I could care a less if people don't like orange Laverda's, this bike looks wicked in it to me at least.
After getting that far I started with Red's coil bracket and got the coils in and the little loom attached, the engine should be in in the next day or two
to get the wheel spacing correct for the front wheel in the forks, I printed up spacers in Nylon, to make sure that I got it just right, they can now be machined up as it seems I got that right first time round for once
Anyway, hope you dig the photos.
Darryl Kerrigan Says: ?Oh Steve, could you move the Camira? I need to get the Torana out so I can get to the Commodore.?
Steve Kerrigan: ?I?ll have to get the keys to the Cortina if I?m gonna move that Camira.?
Go the Castle.... for those in the know!..... ahh Bonnie doon
So a few bikes got moved around, one off the lift, so the Jota could finally move on.... then my obsessive compulsive disorder kicked in about cleaning, so had to clean a bit, that interspersed with playing swing ball with bored kids, pumping up 3 little girls bicycle tires so they could ride their bikes etc , I finally got the frame of the Jota off my temporarily felt covered welding table, it will be good to get that back, and both wheels on and on the lift . Then I started protecting the frame ready for the engine to go into.... like all toys, I had to put the tank and fairing on albeit crooked and loose, so I could see how the Jota will look finally on wheels... I know you all have them and have assembled loads of bikes, but this is the furtherest I have ventured with a build like this before, so ts quite exciting. Fuck me if the bike doesn't look good, I could care a less if people don't like orange Laverda's, this bike looks wicked in it to me at least.
After getting that far I started with Red's coil bracket and got the coils in and the little loom attached, the engine should be in in the next day or two
to get the wheel spacing correct for the front wheel in the forks, I printed up spacers in Nylon, to make sure that I got it just right, they can now be machined up as it seems I got that right first time round for once
Anyway, hope you dig the photos.
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8) I dig ...... excuse me, I have to (jerk)