Crackdown On Classic Rego

Lee87H said:
I can't believe the restrictions and regulations you guys have to deal with just to ride an old motorcycle, I live in the highest taxed state in the US and my yearly registration is $17,and basic insurance is $75, I have total loss insurance for my 3C with a value of $17k for $225 a year. I don't see how your governments justify the costs on such a small portion of the motoring population
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NJ not far behind in being one of the highest taxed states. I paid a one time $65.00 Historic registration fee for my 3C that is renewed for free every 2 years. With Historic tag I'm only supposed to ride on weekends and special events. But even when stopped for a moving violations have never been questioned where I'm going or why. Even my 1994 Honda XR650L dual sport qualifies for Historic registration now that it is over 25years old.
 
Boy have I got it easy here in California. I have owned my 78 Jota for 38 years, in all those years my Rego has been done by mail never once inspected. If I want a vintage plate I can get it through the mail its about half the cost of full rego which is $149. A CHP officer once complimented the bike on the upgraded (4 pot) Brembos and headlight fairing.
 
maurice turner said:
Gday Piet I meant to ask you last year what sort of registration you had on your trick 3C?
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Normal rego, Maurice.

Road tax is ?72.00, 3rd. party insurance around ?35.00 annually.  Don't have theft or anything else insured, nobody in their right mind would touch that thing! :D  It is locked up when not in use, I don't generally let it stand around unsupervised.

Much the same for the other bikes.  The 250 Chott costs all of ?18.00 tax, ?15.00 3rd. party, peanuts.  These days, I pay 70% less insurance for 6 registered bikes than I did 40 years ago for one!  Was difficult times for a youngster on a big bike.

Road tax here is based on engine capacity, insurance is based on hp, owner age, driving record, etc.  It drops dramatically after a few years, if there are no claims.

piet

 
I don't think the bike should have classic rego. The owner is obviously trying to modernise it which is not the purpose for historic club machines. This is why period racing has rules and regulations. He spends all that money to upgrade and won't pay correct rego. Just tight. Cheers
Ian
 
Simples really..... just carry your log book  ;)

At $75 a year for 45 days, it?s a great system. Open the book after 12 mnths is up and lucky to have half of them entries used up.
Would love to ride more often, alas. Life gets in the way !  :)
 
Sorry it seems ridiculous to me,is $75 a great savings over a regular registration? Or are you just used to the government reaching into your wallet? After all these are just old motorcycles 
 
In  Sth Oz a few years ago it was known as Historic Reg which meant that your car / bike had to be historically correct no mods allowed. Now defunct.

Replaced by Conditional Reg scheme which means that modifications are allowed.
Which is administered by a club which is overseen by a Federation of motoring clubs, which is responsible to the state rego dept.

Its up to the club via their Constitution and club rules as to what is allowed to enter the scheme.
There is a point where modifications become street machines which require an engineers certificate and a club registered for such.

Once a year an authorized club member stamps and signs your log book after you renewed your club membership, $35.00 for the Norton club.
Don't you forget Terry  :D

Currently I have 3 bikes registered under the scheme which have cost me around $240.00 for each bike for 3 years rego. which includes 3rd party ins.

Its not that hard to make a log book entry, if you don't and get caught out then you bike is considered unregistered and you cop the fine.
If you are not a financial member, eg let it lapse, your bike is no longer deemed to be registered and you cop the fine.

Over all its a pretty simple scheme to adhere to, but I would like to see a 45 day option like the Mexicans have got but 90 days is better than nothing.

And Shannons reduced my comprehensive insurance premiums when I put the bike on the club rego. IMHO its a win win 8)


PS; there is no restrictions on what for, where or when we use or bikes, just a log book entry for each day.


 
Lee87H said:
Sorry it seems ridiculous to me,is $75 a great savings over a regular registration? Or are you just used to the government reaching into your wallet? After all these are just old motorcycles
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Yep, full rego is dear as poison here.
The Historic/Classic rego is pretty much a pro rata amount i.e. you pay 45/365ths of full amount for 45 days logged riding, or 90/365ths for 90 days. Roughly.
 
Club ride doesn't require a logbook entry, all other rides do. Get caught riding without a logbook filled in and your classed as unregister and that's close to $1000 fine. And now my usual rant, the old scheme allowed you to do a maintenance ride to within 50ks of your house and I wish this new scheme did as well. One Saturday I went to get some fuel and do a lap around the block to check the bike was going well and didn't bother filling in the logbook. And there was a Random Breath Test cop car 300m down the road from my place and I got pulled in. I was 100% lucky to not get an arsehole cop, they let it slide thankfully. So for the first 5 years with the old Classic Rego, that was fine and dandy, now it's like raping your sister. Big Big crime. I cannot see any logical reason why this must be complied with. Rant End.
 
Vince said:
Club ride doesn't require a logbook entry, all other rides do. Get caught riding without a logbook filled in and your classed as unregister and that's close to $1000 fine. And now my usual rant, the old scheme allowed you to do a maintenance ride to within 50ks of your house and I wish this new scheme did as well.
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Just opt out of the logbook scheme then Vince, you have the option.  Go back to the other one if it works better for you.  If you're always on a club ride or within 50k's of home the log book is of no benefit and in fact is a hindrance.
 
My 1200 turned 40 last year and the rego fee has automatically dropped from nearly $600 per year to $53 per year.  Unfortunately my Zane is registered as a 2005 model so it is going to be 25 years before that gets cheaper.
 
Hi Steve, yes and no. Nice and concise. I like the ability of the logbook scheme to allow any rides legally, full stop. We all used the loophole in the old scheme for extended maintenance rides with an email to Brett Rosen--- for covering your arse but it strictly was a bodge. Perfection for me is Logbook scheme with the 50k maintenance ride like we used to have included. I don't see how this small addendum would be a deal-breaker but I guess I wasn't involved in the Government inquiry that set it up.I have no problem doing a logbook entry for a 3-hour ride to someplace, just seems overkill for a 3-minute lap of the block. Probably wouldn't concern those in suburbia but I am on the bike less than 10ks from the GPO and major expressways less than a block in all directions and can cross paths with cops at any time randomly. Years ago I was always doing a lap of the block to check stuff, I rarely do that now and tend to do the cross my fingers and hope the bike is fine on the 6am morning starts before rides, and that pisses me off and shouldn't be a concern, but it is.
 
78jotadave said:
Boy have I got it easy here in California. I have owned my 78 Jota for 38 years, in all those years my Rego has been done by mail never once inspected. If I want a vintage plate I can get it through the mail its about half the cost of full rego which is $149. A CHP officer once complimented the bike on the upgraded (4 pot) Brembos and headlight fairing.
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If American TV programs like Full Custom Garage and Vegas Rat Rods are any indication, it seems you can register pretty much anything with wheels in USA. There's no way you could get away with most of those way-out (but cool) vehicles in Australia. Some of them don't even have mudguards (fenders) FFS.  :o 

Is it something in the constitution like the second amendment (right to bear arms)? Perhaps "the right to drive any old home-built piece of crap on the roads".  :D
 
motoddrob said:
Just paid 2 regos the Motodd and GSBM, $386 each, that's including 3rd party as it's part of the WA rego system.
Club rego is $80 in think.
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With no restrictions though Rob. My bike regos x 4 = about $1,600 pa. It's what I'd rather, than pallava. 
 
Haven't really looked into what's involved with club rego in WA. Have been thinking about doing it for the SFC for several years now, that way I would ride it more often and not have the worry of getting caught unlicensed. If the bike is unlicensed it needs to go over the pits [Gov vehicle inspection] before applying for club rego. So basically it needs to be licensed before applying for club rego. Was much easier in NSW when I rego-ed the SFC through the Classic Italian Club. Show up for club inspection, go the the office, pay money and get plates, of which I still have!!!.
Prior to that the bike had never been rego-ed in OZ having a Californian title. Now I have some papers from NSW which should make it easier to rego here.
 
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