Laverda spokes

Laverda SF said:
Stainless Steel spokes will kill you.
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I don't think you've been following this thread fully, Ron. There is 'stainless' and there is stainless when it comes to spokes. Every large capacity retro-style new moto on the market with spoke wheels has stainless spokes - I don't think BMW, Triumph and Ducati to name a few, would take such risks. Have heard of. Beemer destroying a rear wheel but that may have been hub/ wheel design. I've ridden hard on stainless spokes for 100,000km without a problem.
 
Apparently Stainless Steel Spokes have came along way from my day.

The front rim spokes require more maintenance as it seems oil splash off the chain preserves the rear spokes better.
 
What is 5 7 spoking? Google can't answer so it obviously doesn't exist, doh.
We used to fit wider 18" rear rims to Laverda using rims we drilled ourselves. To overcome the problem Piet mentions we made a tool (a ground down 14mm or so drill bit with the end reduced as a pilot to locate it in the hole) to increase the dishing for the nipple in the wheel well so that the nipple could exit at the correct angle. Never had a problem with mine and didn't get reports of others with problems either. I also have a spoke thread rolling tool, which for me has been invaluable for lots of my wheel building.
Regarding spoke life, I picked up a beaut virtually unused 30 year old ten speed racer bicycle when I came to Norway (was getting chucked into a garbage skip) and it started busting the original gal spokes immediately, after replacing numerous individual breakages as they happened I rebuilt the wheels with new SS DT Swiss (at Quentin?s advice), never a problem since.
 
Dellortoman said:
Swing arms are not necessarily symmetrical about the bike's central plane. I've seen a bike with an offset swing arm.  ?
I'm pretty sure my 3CL has a symmetrical swing arm as far as the wheel centering is concerned.
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Well, my memory is as reliable as ? er, an unreliable thing (can't think of a good example of unreliability). I just had a look at the drawing of the 3CL swing arm I did a few years ago and it's definitely offset. It would pay to check before centering a spoked rim on the rear wheel. Although the spoke flanges on a wire wheel hub might be central to the bike. I don't have a spoked wheel so can't check.
 

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Hi Dellortoman,

Unfortunately I didn't check if the flanges of the hub had offset with the rim, and I didn't check it because visually was quite obvious they didn't. But of course, if they had a few mm of offset... then I missed it. However, taking into account the angle of the outer spokes to the rim and the short distance from the hub (drumm brake) to the rim, I can't imagine they have an offset. Also the spokes from the left and the right have equal length and same lacing pattern. My guess is that the assimetry of the swingarm is compensated with the spacers of the wheel spindle (axis?)...

The old spokes should arrive to Central Wheels on Monday, when I get the new ones and start the job, I'll keep you posted. I tried Sid wheels as somebody here recommended, but communication is difficult as he answers only fb messages now and then.

I did a few photos and videos of the wheels before disassembling, I'll post them here in case somebody reading is curious regarding it...

Miguel.

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To each his own.
I have to admit that I've never been bothered.
I leave the spokes as they are. Just clean them and painstakingly paint them one by one if need be.
Depends on the result you're after of course.

Paul
 
Paul Marx said:
To each his own.
I have to admit that I've never been bothered.
I leave the spokes as they are. Just clean them and painstakingly paint them one by one if need be.
Depends on the result you're after of course.

Paul
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I was considering to leave them as you say, but some of them were very bended, and all nipples heavily rusty... and Hubs need polishing as the were kept over 20 years in very very hostile conditions

Miguel
 
As I said, to each his own.
I love dirty bikes.

I used to own the worlds dirtiest SFC. I now own the worlds cleanest. I haven't used it yet.

Paul
 
michipons said:
I can't imagine they have an offset. Also the spokes from the left and the right have equal length and same lacing pattern. My guess is that the assimetry of the swingarm is compensated with the spacers of the wheel spindle (axis?)...
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I think that's a safe assumption Miguel.

Cam
 
You drilled and laced a wider rim on my SF2 Lee. Did alot of miles on it and never had a broken spoke problem.
Paul my SFC isn't exactly cherry either. 28000 miles of patina. Still polishes up nicely when I can be bothered
 
Me too, I expect that does that effect using a pair of dividers to check the rear axel being parallel to the swingarm when adjusting the chain.
 
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