Over the Border

Reading this thread is a joy, made all the sweeter due to being surrounded by Covidiots here in the dark, northern region of the planet.  Thank you.  :-*
 
Geez, what a transformation.  And what a sound!
Hats off to Red.

Viewed from the front, the new exhaust system appears to be a 3-into-1, yet it ends up with two Jota silencers.  Does it use the normal 3-into-2 collector, or is it different?

Tom
 
Its a curcular stacked style,works better than the usual big bore flat style.I would like similar but I have enough trouble grounding when crossing my drive  way
 
tom3c75 said:
Geez, what a transformation.  And what a sound!
Hats off to Red.

Viewed from the front, the new exhaust system appears to be a 3-into-1, yet it ends up with two Jota silencers.  Does it use the normal 3-into-2 collector, or is it different?

Tom
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Vince said:
Its a circular stacked style,works better than the usual big bore flat style.
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A good impression can be seen on the 6th picture on page 1 ...
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Cheers
Jo
 
You want to tell us the bike in Red?s shed is the one with the corroded rods?
Unbelievable! Now it looks like new- some would say better. Excellent work!
 
Those later 1200's ended up in a terrible state in some countries considering they weren't a cheap bike to buy. That is an amazing transformation.
 
andre g said:
You want to tell us the bike in Red?s shed is the one with the corroded rods?
Unbelievable! Now it looks like new- some would say better. Excellent work!
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Its the very same Andre  (bigthumb)
Tom3c75, The exhaust is Reds design, built by CES exhaust and based on his race bike exhaust but splitting into two and then Jota pipes, rather than the single pipe on the race bikes.
Much bigger collector and headers than normal :D
Sexy as all get out.
 
LaverdaIan said:
Yep, those Serbians were a great set of container bikes eh Tom..?

One of the little ones morphed into a Montjuic race bike.. yep great set they were..  ;)

What would we do without Red and Maxene thinking ahead.. :P

Enjoy the new ride mate.. but watch out for the fuel tap Police.. :LOL:

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Yep Ian, we are very lucky indeed, its a good club to belong to, the Serbian club, quite a few outstanding bikes there.

Dont worry, Im not on the fuel tap polices radar.

Cant wait for the next Bears meet (bigthumb)
 
TC said:
I love the twins , but Im a tall guy and they just look smaller thats all.
The 81 Jota wasn't planned, it just sort of fell into my lap with a please take me home look on its face....
Cant wait to see the calendars Jo, must be getting close.
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Hello Tom, funny that you say that. When I think about it, I don't find the 750 (Breganze) Laverdas any smaller than the 1000s. Back in its day, I found a Guzzi 750S for example more compact than the Laverda 750. And of course a Morini 3 1/2 and a Pantah - but they also had smaller engines ...

Cheers
Jo
 
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Jo said:
Hello Tom, funny that you say that. When I think about it, I don't find the 750 (Breganze) Laverdas any smaller than the 1000s. Back in its day, I found a Guzzi 750S
for example more compact than the Laverda. And of course a Morini 3 ? and a Pantah - but they also had smaller engines ...

Cheers
Jo
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The low height of the steering headstock on the twins shows the 'size' differential - the forks are very short c/w triples. Not sure about seat height. I know that when I went to 17 inch wheels and a shorter Japanese front end I could almost get both my heels on the ground ... and believe me, my legs are not long! A track day at the Island revealed how much lower it was, grounding the primary chain adjust (set up as short as poss) with far too much ease. Without measuring I'd say the narrower engine on an SF sits much lower than a triple. On the SFQ I'm countering the drop in height of the 17s with shocks the length used on the triple and have made extended fork caps to raise the front to around std (and allow clipon fitment above the clamp and loads of height adjustability.
 
That?s a clever idea q, extended fork caps. Does the part where the cap threads into the tube stay in the triple clamp for extra support?  If it was between the clamps, big brake forces might be a problem.
 
Great story lads a true classic Laverda tale, the bikes what a transformation Red is an artist bound only by mechanical limitations, top job. My only question, what's with the 'Girlie, Sheila snacks' offered on the drive, watching your figures are you? Do they not sell Chico Rolls, Dim Sums, and any other deep-fried offerings one craves on a drive in the north. Maybe I've been gone too long, where were the tinnies?  Great topic!
 
martymoose said:
That?s a clever idea q, extended fork caps. Does the part where the cap threads into the tube stay in the triple clamp for extra support?  If it was between the clamps, big brake forces might be a problem.
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Used that sys on about three or four different fork configs, Marty. Depending on where the join sits, the top cap (and clipon) is securely clamped. There are ways around it if the right one does 'unwind' under hard braking but I have never had to worry. Strength is not an issue, as there is very little stress loading on the top clamp.

Making the extended caps for the USD Kayabas with damping and preload adjusters built into the cap was ... um, let's say, an exercise in the finer points of (lathe) turning. I ended up machining down the outside off the std caps and cutting a male thread around them, then making hollow caps that thread into the fork via a male thread and cut a female thread into them that take the machined std cap inserts. Maybe I could have found forks the right length??!! But I worked with what I had (which was something I liked a lot and really wanted to use). It's only time ≥.. and we old codgers have effing loads of it, don't we!!  :-\ :-\ :-\
 
TC said:
The more you look the more you find with that bike, Reds attention to detail is amazing,
Thanks Red, so stoked!!
And thank you Max for all your hospitality, it is amazing what you two have created up there, just beautiful.

Ciao
Tom
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Having had the chance to enjoy the same hospitality and friendship almost a year ago ........ I completely understand!

Thank you for the description of your roadtrip and having met Brett as well I'm sure it was a very enjoyable drive! The stories of seeing the exotic bikes and machinery and hearing a bike in Red's shop and the parrots and Max's amazing hospitality brought back some very treasured memories.

I guess I had better email Red soon. I'm hoping to sell a condo and when I do I want to ship my Formula Mirage motor for the full Redax treatment. I hope I can make it on the list!

Thank you for the great stories and many cheers to you all especially Maxene ........

Jim
 
So its been a bit longer than I thought, but finally got to ride my 1200 yesterday,
Only managed about 20 ks cause we are in lockdown again, funny that :unsure: we
went into lockdown when I got the bike back from Red and here we are again at the completion.
Anyway.... as you can imagine there was no hiding my smile yesterday, bloody hell Red you build a sensational engine!!

As always theres still a bit to do but so far Im pretty happy, Many thanks to all who have helped out with ideas and encouragement, most notably, Red and Max and the team up there in the Redax rainforest, Takashi Iwamoto for his inspirational 750, and many others, if you see something that looks familiar its cause it is...
Heres a few pics.
Cheers Tom

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