Paul LeClair new project and 1982 Mirage 1200 TS Series 2 FOR SALE
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Cosi
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- Kingscliff
In this case Vince the internet and hearsay is not your friend, can not be used on a Zane, waste of time, how that is relevant to Paul’s project I’m unsure, anyways, if it’s the 16m that is used on centauro as Im lead to believe, is a very primitive piece of shit shall we say, the only mechanical adjustment you have is a CO2 trimmer, shove a sniffer up its arse and you can adjust that only, 4-6% is what your looking for, as far as remapping goes thats another kettle of fish and is where the gains will be made, all entirely possible with the correct software, dyno and a chip writer, have done this on Zane’s with pretty good success, but as you will know is very time consuming and costly, I believe the Jeffery’s stuff works for guzzis as he is a guzzi guy, it may well work for a road bike but I would be looking to install the chip that has been mapped for those exhausts, adjust the trimmer to suit and will be good, if you were going to waste money on remapping then there are way better programable ecus out there with way more functions and sensor reading technology for less money than having a bulky inferior 16m sitting under the seat…
Cosi, the whole point of why I like the Internet is hearing first-hand from those who do this stuff and the important part is telling the world how they really got on. Telling me my info was crap is great to hear. That's absolute gold to me and I hope it encourages everybody to share good info for the good of getting out there on old bikes. I have heard that trim pot adjustment is very delicate, doesn't take much turning? Probably the main reason why I wank on so much on that Atlas thread, there is buggar all out there on Atlass. The owner's forum, that disappeared for a few years and thankfully came back and some posts I found from Pommy Nick who has way too many Atlass apparently hanging bearly on Life Support plus a few that popped up I hope encouraged by my wank fest.
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- Calgary, Alberta, Canada
bike fired right up......
added some inexpensive mirrors I had tried out on my 1978 KZ 650 project and had left over. While I have located stock mirrors in Italy available to buy, they are so ugly I have been resistant to spending $300 CAD on them.
I totally dis assembled all the fuel injection bits, ran everything through my ultrasonic repeatedly until clean, replaced the broken parts and the broken sensors. I did a basic mechanical synchronization of the throttle bodies with the linkages.
Fuel injection adjustments are limited. There is an "air screw" adjuster in each throttle body, like an idle mixture screw on a carb. There is a vacuum port on each throttle body that allows hook up of my balancer tubes, to then use the linkage adjusters to get the bodies fairly equal. The throttle position "potentiometer" is also adjustable to get correct for throttle close position and then throttle position throughout the opening of the throttle. That seems to be about it for adjustments, although there are a number of tests to be done using an electrical tester to be sure voltages and resistances are correct. I removed all the emissions equipment, the two carbon canisters, all the plumbing, etc, and ran appropriate new venting hoses. Need to pick up a couple of small inline "air" filters.
I still have a list of final set up things to address, clutch cable needs adjusting, rear brake light does not presently work even with a new bulb so switch(s) likely failed or electrical issues, need to bleed the brakes through again, there is a blemish on the left side tank panel I am going to cover with some adhesive tank knee grip material, and a few other dial in and fettling tasks, and likely more once I can actually test ride., With open pipes and low restriction x pipe, the bike sounds very "healthy", has a great bark.
has been a fun project, learned a lot, and more still to learn as I dial in the fuel injection as best I can.. Thanks everyone, and especially Helicopter Jim, for all the help, greatly appreciated!!!!
added some inexpensive mirrors I had tried out on my 1978 KZ 650 project and had left over. While I have located stock mirrors in Italy available to buy, they are so ugly I have been resistant to spending $300 CAD on them.
I totally dis assembled all the fuel injection bits, ran everything through my ultrasonic repeatedly until clean, replaced the broken parts and the broken sensors. I did a basic mechanical synchronization of the throttle bodies with the linkages.
Fuel injection adjustments are limited. There is an "air screw" adjuster in each throttle body, like an idle mixture screw on a carb. There is a vacuum port on each throttle body that allows hook up of my balancer tubes, to then use the linkage adjusters to get the bodies fairly equal. The throttle position "potentiometer" is also adjustable to get correct for throttle close position and then throttle position throughout the opening of the throttle. That seems to be about it for adjustments, although there are a number of tests to be done using an electrical tester to be sure voltages and resistances are correct. I removed all the emissions equipment, the two carbon canisters, all the plumbing, etc, and ran appropriate new venting hoses. Need to pick up a couple of small inline "air" filters.
I still have a list of final set up things to address, clutch cable needs adjusting, rear brake light does not presently work even with a new bulb so switch(s) likely failed or electrical issues, need to bleed the brakes through again, there is a blemish on the left side tank panel I am going to cover with some adhesive tank knee grip material, and a few other dial in and fettling tasks, and likely more once I can actually test ride., With open pipes and low restriction x pipe, the bike sounds very "healthy", has a great bark.
has been a fun project, learned a lot, and more still to learn as I dial in the fuel injection as best I can.. Thanks everyone, and especially Helicopter Jim, for all the help, greatly appreciated!!!!
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helicopterjim
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- near Lone Butte, BC, Canada
Yeah Baby!
Well done!
Jim
Well done!
Jim
helicopterjim
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- near Lone Butte, BC, Canada
Steve G.
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I’ve ridden a Griso and a V11. The Griso is much easier on my hockey knees.
helicopterjim
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- near Lone Butte, BC, Canada
Oh well.
Jim
Jim
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- Calgary, Alberta, Canada
found a great pair of stock Guzzi matte black V11 mirrors, right shape for the Centauro, not nearly as ugly to my eyes as chrome stock Centauro mirrors. What should hopefully be the last of the needed parts arrived today, last of the brake parts, microswitches, minor finishing parts. Still need to set up fuel injection but need warmer weather.
edit - just noticed the photo shows part of the big red snow blower behind the Guzzi. 275 cc Subaru V twin engine, two speed reverse, 5 speed forward, electric start, dual stage 30 inch wide blower, even has electric heated grips and a headlight....... It usually lives in an unheated utility shed, brought it into the heated garage to be sure it will start in this present ridiculous cold.
edit - just noticed the photo shows part of the big red snow blower behind the Guzzi. 275 cc Subaru V twin engine, two speed reverse, 5 speed forward, electric start, dual stage 30 inch wide blower, even has electric heated grips and a headlight....... It usually lives in an unheated utility shed, brought it into the heated garage to be sure it will start in this present ridiculous cold.
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helicopterjim
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- near Lone Butte, BC, Canada
The mirrors look good Paul. Quite appropriate. Looking forward to the day you get to go for a tear on that girl. I'm sure the neighbours will notice!
Jim
Jim
Dellortoman
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- Tasmania, Australia
I think you have a stalker outside your window. He must be keen, given the sub-zero temperature.
helicopterjim
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- near Lone Butte, BC, Canada
Yes, he's dressed.
Paul
lawrence
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- Idaho, USA
Will they afford a view beyond your elbows? That is the key consideration.
Steve G.
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Original V11 mirrors were made for clip on bars, attached below the top triple clamp. Being used on a standard superbike bar, I would think they would work great! If caring what’s going on behind you is on your list,,,,,
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- Calgary, Alberta, Canada
when I went to reproduce the Guzzi cam belt tensioning tool for myself as I couldn't find one to buy anywhere in the world, I ran into minimum order charges. Was going to be way too expensive to scan and 3 d print, so I went for water jet cutting of the base plate in metal, but again ran into minimum charges, just not as high.
Anyway, have had 10 base plates cut out, have had 10 solid tops cut, and 10 pieces of tubing. Now to just weld them together, then figure out what to do with all of them......... Helicopter Jim's original factory tool is in the top left of the first photo
Anyway, have had 10 base plates cut out, have had 10 solid tops cut, and 10 pieces of tubing. Now to just weld them together, then figure out what to do with all of them.........
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Dellortoman
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- Tasmania, Australia
Blimey Paul. You don't do things by halves. I suppose if you couldn't find one to buy, other Guzzi owners will be in the same boat. Advertise them on a Guzzi forum. You could sell them as kits or fully welded up. (Might post in a smaller pack if not assembled?)
I'm going to a Moto Guzzi centenary BBQ (delayed a couple of years because of Covid) on Saturday 4 Feb. I'll ask around to see if anybody wants one. I can think of one guy already who owns a couple of Guzzis with belt driven camshafts. Do you have an idea of how much you want for them?
I'm going to a Moto Guzzi centenary BBQ (delayed a couple of years because of Covid) on Saturday 4 Feb. I'll ask around to see if anybody wants one. I can think of one guy already who owns a couple of Guzzis with belt driven camshafts. Do you have an idea of how much you want for them?
Maybe you mean Saturday 4th March?
Dellortoman
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Yes. Thanks Baz. 4th March. This coming Saturday.Maybe you mean Saturday 4th March?
I'm often getting dates mixed up. What do you call dyslexia with dates?
It can be a bit inconvenient sometimes. I went for an appointment at the skin cancer clinic last week, but the receptionist had no appointment for me in her calendar for that day. The appointment is actually for March. I'd put it in my Outlook calendar for February.