To sell or not to sell?
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AndyW
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Interesting: I never considered tea drinking to be a subversive activity, however, in the right context I guess it could be. Tea drinking was always going to prevail over eating cake...
Or snails.......
Andy
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I think drinking tea was a little bit tricky in Boston at one stage…
rocketonarail
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I think the last time we invaded France was to help liberate it , but lets conveniently forget about that shall we ?
On that subject can anyone expand on the story regarding the founder of the Renault motor company , Louis Renault , who was murdered in a French prison after the liberation of Paris ?
It seems he was charged ("J`accuse , J`accuse , collaborator" , you know , all that sort of business ) , of keeping the Renault factories going under Nazi occupation , although some say production was deliberately sabotaged so as not to aid the Nazis .
Anyway he was imprisoned after the liberation and died of head injuries whilst in prison.
Another ( this time fun ? ) story is that Adolf Hitler is responsible for the launch of the fizzy orange drink Fanta.
The Coca Cola plant in Nazi Germany was unable to continue with production of that particular drink , due to the Americans withdrawing their support or the supply of Coke syrup or something , so to keep the factory running the Nazis looked around for something else to make and came up with Fanta , which is still sold today as part of the Coca Cola brand , so obviously in this case once the war was over everyone kissed and made up , obviously not the case in the previous story relating to Louis Renault...
On that subject can anyone expand on the story regarding the founder of the Renault motor company , Louis Renault , who was murdered in a French prison after the liberation of Paris ?
It seems he was charged ("J`accuse , J`accuse , collaborator" , you know , all that sort of business ) , of keeping the Renault factories going under Nazi occupation , although some say production was deliberately sabotaged so as not to aid the Nazis .
Anyway he was imprisoned after the liberation and died of head injuries whilst in prison.
Another ( this time fun ? ) story is that Adolf Hitler is responsible for the launch of the fizzy orange drink Fanta.
The Coca Cola plant in Nazi Germany was unable to continue with production of that particular drink , due to the Americans withdrawing their support or the supply of Coke syrup or something , so to keep the factory running the Nazis looked around for something else to make and came up with Fanta , which is still sold today as part of the Coca Cola brand , so obviously in this case once the war was over everyone kissed and made up , obviously not the case in the previous story relating to Louis Renault...
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Well, I didn't know of the Louis Renault story. So I looked it up.
He was a fan of Hitler, a pacifist like a lot of those finding excuses to Putin today. He met Hitler before the war to discuss economic cooperation with the Nazis.
He built up the Renault factories again after the 1940 defeat, the factories working for the German war effort and then again after destruction by an allied bombing in 1942. Renault supplied parts for the building of German armoured vehicles.
He was imprisoned in September 1944 immediately after the liberation of Paris by French troops. He was seriously ill and died a month later. The only people upholding the theory of his beating are his family. Their accusations were declared null and void by the courts in 1956 - 57.
"I think the last time we invaded France was to help liberate it , but lets conveniently forget about that shall we ?"
A certain General Patton and his troops I believe, along with British, Canadian, French, Polish, Australian, NZ and others and greatly aided by one of Putin's predecessors whose troops destroyed and pinned down a large part of the German war effort without which, short of nuclear bombs or the sacrifice of Europe, the UK would still be an American aircraft carrier, which it isn't any more is it?
Not forgetting either the many foreign pilots of the RAF who survived the battle of Britain.
Paul
rocketonarail
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This is interesting.
Operation Overlord (The Battle of Normandy) of which Operation Neptune (The D-Day Landings) was part was the start of the Allies attempt to regain a foothold in Nazi occupied Western Europe in June `44 .
In charge of Overlord was General Eisenhower USA (Supreme Allied Commander ) and General Montgomery UK , who was in charge of all Allied ground forces , which would have included Patons Third Army.
During the Battle of the Bulge , when the Germans broke through American lines in the Ardennes , Montgomery took direct control of the American First and Ninth Armies , until Patons Third Army joined from the South .
Interestingly when the Nazis advanced into the USSR Joseph Stalin called upon Churchill to open up a second front in the West to try to stem the German advance , but Churchill refused , after the Dunkirk defeat Britain would have been too weak to do this on it`s own , , America had still yet to enter the war , and even if their help had been available , he didn`t think it would have been successful anyway , at that time (1941).
Patons nickname was Blood and Guts , and American soldiers would joke ` Yeah , our blood , his guts". He briefly fell out with Eisenhower after Eisenhower heard Paton had assaulted two soldiers suffering from battle fatigue and ordered them back to the front.
Going back to the Fanta thing , there is a story concerning Pepsi Cola - An advertising line for Pepsi used to be "Come alive with Pepsi" -
This was translated into different languages around the world and over in the far east somewhere when "Come alive with Pepsi" was translated into Thai or Phillipino or whatever it was , but then translated back into English again , it came back as "Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the grave"
- quite an impressive claim for a can of fizzy drink...(good for unblocking sinks though)...
Talking about motor industry figures during WW2 , Ferdinand Porsche was sentenced to two years imprisonment at the Nuremburg War Crime Trials .
Although credited (if that`s the right word) for designing the Volkswagen Beetle , that story begins when Posche joined the Czech car company Tatra in the `30`s .
Tatra were best known for their large heavy saloon cars , the sort of thing Communist Party leaders would be driven around in , like a Russian Zil , but their chief designer Hans Ledwinka was working at that time on a small family car for four people.
By all accounts Porsche spent most of his time at Tatra looking over Ledwinkas shoulder , and when he (Porsche) left Tatra he took the ideas and plans for this car with him , although they weren`t really his to take , and this led to the eventual development of the Beetle.
Adolf Hitler was apparently a bit of a Tatra fan , and a mate of Ledwinkas , making a point of visiting their stand at the Berlin Motor Shows.
Operation Overlord (The Battle of Normandy) of which Operation Neptune (The D-Day Landings) was part was the start of the Allies attempt to regain a foothold in Nazi occupied Western Europe in June `44 .
In charge of Overlord was General Eisenhower USA (Supreme Allied Commander ) and General Montgomery UK , who was in charge of all Allied ground forces , which would have included Patons Third Army.
During the Battle of the Bulge , when the Germans broke through American lines in the Ardennes , Montgomery took direct control of the American First and Ninth Armies , until Patons Third Army joined from the South .
Interestingly when the Nazis advanced into the USSR Joseph Stalin called upon Churchill to open up a second front in the West to try to stem the German advance , but Churchill refused , after the Dunkirk defeat Britain would have been too weak to do this on it`s own , , America had still yet to enter the war , and even if their help had been available , he didn`t think it would have been successful anyway , at that time (1941).
Patons nickname was Blood and Guts , and American soldiers would joke ` Yeah , our blood , his guts". He briefly fell out with Eisenhower after Eisenhower heard Paton had assaulted two soldiers suffering from battle fatigue and ordered them back to the front.
Going back to the Fanta thing , there is a story concerning Pepsi Cola - An advertising line for Pepsi used to be "Come alive with Pepsi" -
This was translated into different languages around the world and over in the far east somewhere when "Come alive with Pepsi" was translated into Thai or Phillipino or whatever it was , but then translated back into English again , it came back as "Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the grave"
- quite an impressive claim for a can of fizzy drink...(good for unblocking sinks though)...Talking about motor industry figures during WW2 , Ferdinand Porsche was sentenced to two years imprisonment at the Nuremburg War Crime Trials .
Although credited (if that`s the right word) for designing the Volkswagen Beetle , that story begins when Posche joined the Czech car company Tatra in the `30`s .
Tatra were best known for their large heavy saloon cars , the sort of thing Communist Party leaders would be driven around in , like a Russian Zil , but their chief designer Hans Ledwinka was working at that time on a small family car for four people.
By all accounts Porsche spent most of his time at Tatra looking over Ledwinkas shoulder , and when he (Porsche) left Tatra he took the ideas and plans for this car with him , although they weren`t really his to take , and this led to the eventual development of the Beetle.
Adolf Hitler was apparently a bit of a Tatra fan , and a mate of Ledwinkas , making a point of visiting their stand at the Berlin Motor Shows.
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chrisk
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Back from the grave….. Here we call it: Hair of the dog.
rocketonarail
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Or you could try a bacon sandwich - watch Al Murray - Bacon (proof of God) .
I would post it but things like that are beyond my technical expertise...
Andy J
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Getting back to the subject matter, I am minded to rationalize the existing collection as needless to say I have my eye on a couple of bikes that I would like to add to the bikes I decide to keep. I could also do with freeing up a bit of cash so I can complete a couple of the many project bikes I own, plus rebuild the Zane 750 race engine that went pop.
However, deciding which ones to let go is, as always, harder than deciding which ones to buy!
I sold a very nice Chott a year or so ago, and now regret it, and I'm still hoping, one day to find my first 500, which I should never have sold!
Therefore, it's perhaps a good thing I have yet another storage unit lined up ready for any new acquisitions.
However, deciding which ones to let go is, as always, harder than deciding which ones to buy!
I sold a very nice Chott a year or so ago, and now regret it, and I'm still hoping, one day to find my first 500, which I should never have sold!
Therefore, it's perhaps a good thing I have yet another storage unit lined up ready for any new acquisitions.
Beucars
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You can never have to many Laverdas...Getting back to the subject matter, I am minded to rationalize the existing collection as needless to say I have my eye on a couple of bikes that I would like to add to the bikes I decide to keep. I could also do with freeing up a bit of cash so I can complete a couple of the many project bikes I own, plus rebuild the Zane 750 race engine that went pop.
However, deciding which ones to let go is, as always, harder than deciding which ones to buy!
I sold a very nice Chott a year or so ago, and now regret it, and I'm still hoping, one day to find my first 500, which I should never have sold!
Therefore, it's perhaps a good thing I have yet another storage unit lined up ready for any new acquisitions.
Diablo Loco
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On rationalising bike collections, a few years ago in a moment of madness induced clarity, "remove distractions" became a mantra.
here's what went:
Guzzi Griso 8V, LM1000, 750S. Ducati 900 carby '96 Supersport, 1098R. Yamaha WR450. A bit earlier, for other reasons, SFC 1000 and Aprilia SXV550.
What was kept:
Guzzi carby Sport 1100, Ducati 1098R (yes, madmen have 2), Suzuki DRZ400SM. What was added, Laverda 1200 and another DRZ400SM.
Moments of regret are quickly dispelled by focussing on what was wrong with each bike sold rather than what was good. Easy to do with most bikes.
here's what went:
Guzzi Griso 8V, LM1000, 750S. Ducati 900 carby '96 Supersport, 1098R. Yamaha WR450. A bit earlier, for other reasons, SFC 1000 and Aprilia SXV550.
What was kept:
Guzzi carby Sport 1100, Ducati 1098R (yes, madmen have 2), Suzuki DRZ400SM. What was added, Laverda 1200 and another DRZ400SM.
Moments of regret are quickly dispelled by focussing on what was wrong with each bike sold rather than what was good. Easy to do with most bikes.
Diablo Loco
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Didn't need a balance shaft so maybe 270 degrees? (don't know) High maintenance, but good if you look after them. Great on the track, very light a bit over 100kg wet with instant response 70HP. Lots of suburban silliness, especially stairs. Only sold it because broken bones. The only thing really wrong with it
