BEARS Australia 2024

rowdypat said:
Do Bimotas qualify for BEARS? Can’t recall seeing one on track. Does it depend on engine manufacturer?
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you can run a Bimota in BEARs, no issue there

couple of years ago at PI we had a Harris framed Suzuki in F4 in BEARs, because it has an English frame it is allowed in
we beat it anyway and then one of the riders mates accused us of cheating saying the Laverda was not correct for BEARs, what a total wanker
 
Ha ha. Did Mr Wanker say why he objected to your bikes? Maybe he was getting all uppity about your frames coming from South Africa (presuming he knew that), which I my old school atlas tells me isn't part of Britain, Europe or America. On the other hand, the bikes were developed and built in Australia, which is acceptable as a European country if the Eurovision Song Contest can be taken as a precedent. :)

I reckon of the Redax bikes were unacceptable someone would have lodged a formal protest by now.
 
redax5 said:
you can run a Bimota in BEARs, no issue there

couple of years ago at PI we had a Harris framed Suzuki in F4 in BEARs, because it has an English frame it is allowed in
we beat it anyway and then one of the riders mates accused us of cheating saying the Laverda was not correct for BEARs, what a total wanker
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Yeah, the Aussie BEARS rules are different from the NZ originals. Japanese origin engines are a no-no. Some years back we had a couple of visiting aussies turn up to a BEARS meeting here. Yamaha engines in their bikes. Most upset when they were turned away.
I've said it before Cosi's bike with a Suzuki engine wouldn't be eligible here..
 
piranha-bro2 said:
I think a Jap motor in a BEARs bike is ridiculous. Defeats the whole purpose of the class - at least for older categories..
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I totally agree

Couple of years ago someone asked if they could race in F4 being the class we run in and is also the Heritage Class with a TZ700 Yamaha two stroke engine in a Spondon frame
It actually conforms to Aussie F4 rules being a British chassis but I told the BEARs committee that if that bike did run in F4 the Laverda's would be retired
 
In Scandy where bruder Tippie raced, they have a class call Forgotten Era for all the old race bikes and Jap sports bikes based on age. They didn't have a BEARS class so his SF was up against all sorts of hotrods - correct me if I'm wrong Lee :cool:
 
piranha-bro2 said:
In Scandy where bruder Tippie raced, they have a class call Forgotten Era for all the old race bikes and Jap sports bikes based on age. They didn't have a BEARS class so his SF was up against all sorts of hotrods - correct me if I'm wrong Lee :cool:
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Yes, but with the rules twisted every which way by some. It is still absolutely up to the rider and generally how much they can afford to punish aged motors. I wouldn't worry about TZ750 Yamahas Red, for a start there aren't many left after most of the motors were snaffled by sidecar folk, and their short racing life between engine swaps. Even back in the day Croz gave them a serious run for their money on bombed up Kwakas. Wasn't there one or two at Philip Island, what laptimes did they run? They would be more feathers in your cap I reckon.
 
redax5 said:
I totally agree

Couple of years ago someone asked if they could race in F4 being the class we run in and is also the Heritage Class with a TZ700 Yamaha two stroke engine in a Spondon frame
It actually conforms to Aussie F4 rules being a British chassis but I told the BEARs committee that if that bike did run in F4 the Laverda's would be retired
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Awkward point to make here. In period there were aftermarket crankcases available and now there are aftermarket barrels/pistons.
People have been making replacement cranks for them and Nova i think has done a gearbox for the sidecar guys.
Wouldn't be too hard to put a new non - Japanese TZ750 on the grid.....

Bloody expensive though.
 
As discussed previously, BEARS rules seem to vary between countries and even clubs. UK BHR rules for F1,2 & 3 are more period specific on certain items and are essentially based on pre 1985 production bikes, although after market frames of the type available during that specific era are allowable, such as a Harris or Spondon frame in a F4 class for ‘specials’ upto 1300cc. All components are supposed to be BEA unless stated otherwise.
However, I note for 2024 there appears to be a new class for BEARS up to 1996. I suppose that’s for 916s etc, but the Redax bikes still wouldn’t be eligible.
 
Andy J said:
As discussed previously, BEARS rules seem to vary between countries and even clubs. UK BHR rules for F1,2 & 3 are more period specific on certain items and are essentially based on pre 1985 production bikes, although after market frames of the type available during that specific era are allowable, such as a Harris or Spondon frame in a F4 class for ‘specials’ upto 1300cc. All components are supposed to be BEA unless stated otherwise.
However, I note for 2024 there appears to be a new class for BEARS up to 1996. I suppose that’s for 916s etc, but the Redax bikes still wouldn’t be eligible.
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What if you made the “A” stand for “Australia”?
😁
 
Well, when John Britten started winning the local interpretation changed BEARS to BEARZ.

I knew the people who started the whole thing here in Christchurch. The spark was lit by the then president of what is now Motorcycling Canterbury.
This is the club which runs the local National round and generally does modern roadracing.
She - yes, it was a woman - when asked if the club would run races for non Japanese bikes at meetings, said NO.
The shouting started then. Followed by a meeting of those interested in racing non Japanese bikes.
And away it went. Splintering the relatively small roadracing scene locally.

As a matter of interest, about 5 years after this, I was on the Motorcycling Canterbury committee in one of my rare appearances there.
I put forward and saw passed, a remit that if a minimum of four people came forward and wanted to run a new class they could.
 
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