Spoke Hub Rear

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Just scored me a complete rear spoke wheel from a 78 GS 1000. Anybody tried fitting one of these into a lav rear end, or in my case the SFC750
Haven't got it yet so can't measure. It's got a steel rim so that need changing to an ally jobbie.
 
That was an informative artical Gerald. hopefully the 1000 hub is the same as the 750 hub, if so doesn't look that complicated.
I have a mill and a mate a lathe so very doable.
 
Canadian Larry Strung had one in his 17000 SFC when he actively raced at the time. The Suzuki and the SFC share the same spindle diameter, so that’s easy. Compared with the magnesium SFC hub, the Suzuki hub is a heavy lump though. I’m currently restoring this SFC, but chose to fit an original rear hub again. Apart from the weight, Suzuki hub certainly suits the Laverda well.

Marnix
 
Never seen a OEM GS1000 with spoke wheels, but IIRC the wheels are interchangable from GS750 to GS1000.
As Marnix states the hub is massive and a lump, but relatively easy to adapt to your requirements.

Gerald
 
Good luck with an alloy rim, the easiest way I found is direct from Cental Wheel in the UK, the oz importer works at glacial speed. The biggest Bararni style Morad is 3.0. If you want 3.5 or 4.0 for a 150 tyre you need to use flat style rim. What's the plan, bigger better tyre, I cannot see another reason if it's not standard, why else would you mod an SFC. Disc or drum hub.
 
If you can not get a Suzuki GS 750 hub, you can use an original hub from a Laverda SFC 1000 Classic, I used this solution when I built my SFC 750 replica.
 

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Nice replica you built there. As mentioned I scored a complete rear wheel from a GS1000. Has a steel rim fitted.
I'll be lacing a 3" rim to the hub.
Hi Vince, plan is to start using the SFC again on my local [300km away] track in Collie. Interested in doing a few race meetings a year and as the Motodd doesn't comply with any of the classes I'll have to use the SFC. The magnesium rear hub is getting on a bit these days and I would hate to see it develope cracks so I'll put it on a shelf. Will also need replica tank and fairing to complete the track package. It's the only way I can ride the SFC legally as it's not registed.
Once I get the wheel home and start measuring I may ask for photos. Seems most conversions are using a GS750 hub so I'm hoping the 1000 hub is the same.
 
I have done this twice over the years, added a 3.00 rear rim Borani style Morad rim to a standard twin leader hub, and learned the hard way about issues. So these rims are the best option cost and quality-wise. Apparently, Borani has started up production in Italy and you can order genuine rims with the correct standard size spoke dimple from the Oz rep in Newcastle NSW, the Morad dimple is smaller not allowing the best spoke drilling to accommodate the extreme angle required to use the original double-crossing spoke patten. They are special order and cost double the $400 that the Morad is at your door from England and who knows how long for the Italian ones to arrive. The first time I did this I asked Central Wheel to drill the rim to be used on the original big hub, at that time I didn't know about the smaller dimple, so I took the bits to the wheelwright I used, now long dead and he was not happy with the drillings. He said he would have liked to do this himself, but he could hopefully get away with it. That wheel lasted 15 years till the spokes started pulling through the rim. So as the original wheel bloke was not around I found another bloke who reconned he could do a replacement, apparently not as the first wheel I used from him had 12 spokes brake on its first long ride, not happy was I. So take three, I found the bloke who bought George's wheel building gear and ordered a non drilled rim and dropped it all off. I remember George had a huge mill in his shed and the new bloke had bought it. These blokes don't like saying much about this stuff but I got the impression they made a jig and used both these to do the rim drilling. The second failed wheel was hand drilled using a cordless. The second wheel bloke used a single cross pattened also, he just did that without asking. And he when making the spokes used only 1 bend at the hub. That had the spokes touching where they pass one another. So getting all this to work on a big standard hub is far from easy. If yours is a small disc hub it should be a lot easier in all regards from spoke angle to tensioning. The third wheel on mine is doing really well, the only issue I had was the time it took to get done, the bloke is a good guy but god he was SLOW.
 
Done several disc-spoke hub conversions with Kwaka Z1000 hubs - Suzuki are similar vintage. Always drilled my own rims, firstly a wide Boranni, then 4.25 inch Akronts. Never had a wheel fail, broke one spoke in probably 100,000km. The Jap hubs might be a tad heavier than an SFC (but with the cast disc for the SFC, I seriously doubt it!!!), but they are mighty strong - and I'd rather strong and last forever if a tad heavy, than lightweight and broken, stranding me 150km from Booroloola!! SFQ has a Triumph Legend rear hub- also nice and strong , and the 4.25 Akront was already on it!!

I also bought Larry Strung's SFC hub, disc, spokes and several sprockets, back in the dark ages when we connected via letter, I think!!! I swapped the mag SFC hub and stuff for a complete SF3 gearbox and clutch - much m ore useful to me.
 
Alternatively there are tons of biggish dirt bikes with wire rear wheels now. All you need is one that allows for the sprocket to be spaced in enough to align with the gearbox sprocket. However Rob has this Suzuki one lined up. It will surely fit and all he needs is a rim and new spokes which should be easy to source. Going for a 3" rim he is not trying to make it look standard. Great to hear you are going to use it again Rob, both you and the bike are going to love it. Are there noise limits at Collie?
 
No noise limits that I'm aware off Lee. It's in the middle of nowhere. Was once a coal mine site and the original track was layed out on the old haulpac roads. Wasn't very interesting, very squarish and only about a km. The pit/amenities/office was once the workshops. Great location.
The track has been extended so now it somewhat longer and interesting. Google Collie Motoplex.
Once I get the wheel and offer it up I'll have a better idea of whats involved but from what;s been posted here tells me it should be a piece of piss!!!
 
Everything's a piece of piss when we are just talking about it 😂
I seem to recall the track from Carlo´s exploits there, it looks like a pretty good track now.
 
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